Members TravvyBear Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Amigo I think apple's exclusivity and inflexibility with their software will eventually lead to their decline in popularity. I like apple products, but my God is apple greasy in how they limit you in only using their stuff. For example, I email myself a song that I recorded. I can listen to it on my email but my iphone will not let me download it and save it onto my device. This is because I'm not using itunes to download the mp3. Apple is so concerned that you buy everything through them that they prevent you from performing basic functions. I know jailbreaking my phone can change this, but why should I have to "jailbreak" something, why is it in jail to begin with? Same thing with introducing apple maps. Forcing you into inferior and less flexible software simply because they own it and can profit off of it. I have also noticed that forced software upgrades slow down older devices to the point where you are almost forced to buy a new model to keep your sanity. Apple is getting very annoying and yet they are still able to charge almost double the price for the same spec'd pc. I don't get it. Hahaha, no, sorry man. Apple has been l about closed ecosystems and the collaboration between their own hardware and software since the beggining. You're definitely entitled to your own opinion, but it always makes me laugh when people think that apple will die off because of their restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Amigo Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by TravvyBear Hahaha, no, sorry man. Apple has been l about closed ecosystems and the collaboration between their own hardware and software since the beggining. You're definitely entitled to your own opinion, but it always makes me laugh when people think that apple will die off because of their restrictions. I'm not saying it will die off at all, but when the competitive products are capable of more with less restrictions for less cost then they will eventually have to rethink their current business model. Also saying that Apple has been all about closed ecosystems and the collaboration between their own hardware and software since the beggining is true, or at least was true. but when you consider they are now running intel processors and Nvidia graphics cards, it kind of makes that argument less convincing. IMO It's all about money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cryptosonic Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Actually that isn't true. In the beginning Apple was a very open system with plenty of third party hardware and software devs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 samsung makes iphone chip, apple sues samsung.its a lulzy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goaway Posted December 24, 2012 Members Share Posted December 24, 2012 Originally Posted by echodeluxe HEY KID IM A COMPUTER STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADIN' i love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cobalt-60 Posted December 25, 2012 Members Share Posted December 25, 2012 Originally Posted by echodeluxe HEY KID IM A COMPUTER STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADIN' HAAAAND HIM THE STICK!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zappa74 Posted December 25, 2012 Members Share Posted December 25, 2012 who wants a body massage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members meelosh123 Posted December 25, 2012 Members Share Posted December 25, 2012 Originally Posted by Amigo why should I have to "jailbreak" something, why is it in jail to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fractal Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm with Travvy. This version has VASTLY improved the time required to scroll and search through my library. Plus, before, if I was playing a song, and tried to do something else, I'd better make sure that I was actively playing the song, or else it would lose my place. Now, I can pause the song, do something unrelated to that song (or playing music in general), and come back to the song exactly where I left it.Anyway, I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triviani Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 wow, I just opened the new itunes, WTF IS THIS?I'll have to lost some time just to try to put it back to "normal". Damn apple, do they still think people like to search music by the cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triviani Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 And why has the "display" been turned to black/grey?And took the lists off the main window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm not too happy with the changes they made to the search but other than that it's more or less the same IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turnip Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Trick Fall Took me a couple of minutes to adjust. Much better then the two weeks of frustration after I upgraded excel and couldn't find anything. THAT was a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triviani Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yap, the new search adds more steps to search. How useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vinnies Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Bucksstudent I hate iTunes. If I could load music onto my iPhone without it, I would. so much this. i'm having problems with the OLD itunes - can't delete music from my at-capacity iphone4. grrrr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by triviani Yap, the new search adds more steps to search. How useful. yeah... I don't get that at all.... it was perfect before, now it actually gives more useless information.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triviani Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Marc G yeah... I don't get that at all.... it was perfect before, now it actually gives more useless information.... OK, I found that just pressing enter you got the normal list of findings, just have to ignore that "info box" that appears as you write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HP Hovercraft Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by triviani wow, I just opened the new itunes, WTF IS THIS? I'll have to lost some time just to try to put it back to "normal". Damn apple, do they still think people like to search music by the cover? Originally Posted by HP Hovercraft View -> Show Sidebar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triviani Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 Originally Posted by HP Hovercraft ok, found the sidebar. Apple could include a "How to setup everything as it was before this version" guide on every update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danhedonia Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Closed systems favor whomever control the system - in this case, Apple over the end user. And Travvy, w/all due respect, Apple may well "die off" (or more accurately, lose a great deal of market share and profitability) at some point ... it inevitably happens to most companies. They are lifestyle-product marketeers, which makes them vulnerable to the vicissitudes of fashion, and as hardware/formfactor competitors, they were geniuses of execution, with mediocre engineering. In other words, the world's best design shop. So - when their design starts to piss people off, that's significant. However, I do think they still enjoy an enormous advantage.As a person with more Lindows than IOS platforms in my house, I haven't bothered with iTunes or WMP in eons. I use MediaMonkey for playback (with some decent plug-ins helping sonically), and Exact Audio Copy to rip. I've used various things to burn CDs, currently with an older version of Roxio, but there's plenty of decent freeware out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Originally Posted by triviani ok, found the sidebar. Apple could include a "How to setup everything as it was before this version" guide on every update. They do this. With every update. You probably just clicked out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted December 28, 2012 Members Share Posted December 28, 2012 Originally Posted by Danhedonia Closed systems favor whomever control the system - in this case, Apple over the end user. And Travvy, w/all due respect, Apple may well "die off" (or more accurately, lose a great deal of market share and profitability) at some point ... it inevitably happens to most companies. They are lifestyle-product marketeers, which makes them vulnerable to the vicissitudes of fashion, and as hardware/formfactor competitors, they were geniuses of execution, with mediocre engineering. In other words, the world's best design shop. So - when their design starts to piss people off, that's significant. However, I do think they still enjoy an enormous advantage. As a person with more Lindows than IOS platforms in my house, I haven't bothered with iTunes or WMP in eons. I use MediaMonkey for playback (with some decent plug-ins helping sonically), and Exact Audio Copy to rip. I've used various things to burn CDs, currently with an older version of Roxio, but there's plenty of decent freeware out there. I'm not saying they'll never die out. But I firmly believe that if they do die out, it won't be because they use a closed/integrated system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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