SRS: Post me your songs (yes yours) or if you don't have any someone else's:

[Ryan.]

That make GOOD use of at least one key change.

 

I, being not very good at music, have never successfully put a key change into one of my songs. Have you done it? Do Whores do key changes? What about Lermpy Grervy? Saturn Unleashed?

 

C'mon... show me dem key changes. Or show me how the pros do it...

[Loobs]

Why do you want to do this?

[Ryan.]

 

Why do you want to do this?

 

 

I find key changes interesting, especially when the singer nails it.

[PKTrono]

does it need vocals?

[Ryan.]

 

does it need vocals?

 

 

I'd prefer it. But you can do as you please... we are artists, not IRS agents!

[PKTrono]

okay, hang on

[brokenfixed]

man I gotta learn me up some of that music speak, I'm sure I've done it before here or there.

[big_cat]

sorta cheating cuz it's at the end but whatever

[Pewtershmit]

[video=youtube;vFD2gu007dc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFD2gu007dc

[Ryan.]

sorta cheating cuz it's at the end but whatever

 

God damn Austin, that is some good {censored}.

[PKTrono]

this goes D major to B flat minor to F sharp minor and this one goes G minor to B flat minor about a minute in. whoops

[TomCTC]

You know what I do and where to find it.

[Ryan.]

 

You know what I do and where to find it.

 

 

Tom, there are no key changes in Mario Kart.

[big_cat]

God damn Austin, that is some good {censored}.

 

thanks dude. whole song is in C#m but the outro kicks into Dm. bassist's idea

[goodhonk]

[video=youtube;clJb4zx0o1o]

 

[video=youtube;fuqlRcmmyPw]

[goodhonk]

if you're jsut taking it up a step to build the song you can jump right to the next key, or to make it more interesting go to the 3rd in the original key then the 5th in the new key to transition. ie. playing in the key of D modulating to E, you would transition by going to F#m, then B, then the one chord, E. there are many ways to do it.

[macadood]

i really dig this:

 

key change happens later in the song during a guitar type solo. at least it sounds like a key change to me. very nice effect

 

[video=youtube;8cp23yNw7Vc]

 

happens around 6:29-6:32. not sure if it really is though, but similar effect

[sparkfriction]

i grew up with key changes...

[PKTrono]

 

That is some cool stuff PK. Future classical.

 

 

thanks! and yeah, there are subtle ways to go about it with pivot chords like ihonk said. find a smooth way to get to the five of whatever key you want to change it to (and then resolve it, obviously)

[goodhonk]

if you do it the same way more than once it will sound right to your ears. some of the most interesting parts of music dont' sound "correct" at first listen. those end up being the part of the song people are waiting for, as long the whole song isn't a complete mess.

[PKTrono]

yes. also finding chords that are shared between the two different keys can make things ambiguous while you go back and forth between them.

lots of interesting things you can do with it

[Ryan.]

Good stuff, guys!

 

Wonder if there are some youtube instructions on this topic. Wish I knew more theory. Too busy backpacking and going to the ER.

[RoboPimp]

[video=youtube;k7K4jH7NqUw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7K4jH7NqUw

[sparkfriction]

Good stuff, guys! Wonder if there are some youtube instructions on this topic. Wish I knew more theory. Too busy backpacking and going to the ER.

 

sure... no link in my pocket, but i know there are some videos about key modulation and comon changes etc. ...

[p0lymath]

There's always the popular V/V progression that vocalists always use. Basically it's a whole step up from whatever key you were previously playing in. In other words, A major turns into B major. Lots of pop songs do it but here are two not pop songs that immediately popped into my head.

 

[video=youtube;InwVaMYLBpU]

1:50

[video=youtube;xqNPGXYfZl8]

1:25

 

Also, I recommend big changes in rhythmic motif rather than key changes to get a sort of different sound. Check out this song and try and count all the different rhythmic motifs it uses. Also there's a key change somewhere in there to my ears but maybe it's just a different mode, I honestly can't tell because it's so seamless.

 

[video=youtube;ozGdtWFq0AI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozGdtWFq0AI

 

0-:20, then changes

:20-:30, then changes

:30-:40, then changes

:40-1, then changes

1-1:20, then changes

1:20-1:30, then changes

1:30-1:40, then changes,

1:40-1:50, then changes,

1:50-2:00, then changes,

2-2:10, then changes

2:10-2:20, then changes

2:20-2:35, then changes

2:35-3:02, then changes

3:02-3:12, then changes

3:12-3:25, then changes

3:25-3:3:35, then changes,

3:35-end.

 

17 fairly different rhythmic motifs, each changing every 16-32 bars or so. Having an ADD drummer has it's upsides.

 

Edit: Final thought, I have no idea wtf is happening with the keys in this song:

 

[video=youtube;Ses6cy3EEuo]