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Happy New Year

 

Happy New Year!

 

Michael, do you know what gear Dave DiPietro used on the TT Quick Metal of Honor album? What was your involvement, Did you produce some of those tracks? On a Wing and a Prayer?

 

BTW, have you heard any of the tracks from the new Accept recordings with Mark Tornillo?

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Happy New Year!


Michael, do you know what gear Dave DiPietro used on the TT Quick Metal of Honor album? What was your involvement, Did you produce some of those tracks? On a Wing and a Prayer?


BTW, have you heard any of the tracks from the new Accept recordings with Mark Tornillo?

 

 

Sorry, can't remember what he used. I produced some of the tracks.

Haven't heard any of the new Accept material yet.

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Michael, here are the ADA MP-1 settings you quoted. I'll post them for everyone, so you don't have to.


Here are the real settings:

Overdrive 1 : 4.0 dist

Overdrive 2 : 5.5 dist

Master Gain : 7.5 dist

Bass : 12

Mid : 6

Treb : 6

Pres : 12

Voicing : .tube

FX loop : off


From the ADA it went into the McIntosh 2100 (transistor) poweramp and from there into a vintage Marshall 4x12 cab with the original G12H inside. At that time I normally used Fostex M11RP ribbon mics and Countryman Lavalier mics through a John Hardy M1 to record guitar.

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Yep, it was a McIntosh 2100, sorry for the typo.

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...Gary Moore "Corridors of Power" outro solo to "Cold Hearted" is a good example of great "80's tone."...


...John Sykes "Cryin in the Rain" is a masterpiece of metal tone...

 

 

That "Cold Hearted" outro always give me chills when I hear it loud.And yes,Sykes had such great Mesa/Boogie tone on that entire album.

 

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Thanx for the kind words guys (and girls?)


About Nuno's setup on Porno: we used a Furman PQ3 into an ADA MP1 pre-amp into a McIntosh 2500 power amp (transistor but with an output transformer), same setup as on some of the White Lion stuff and Skid Row's first album. Can't remember the cabinets/speakers, I know we had one original Marshall 4x12 with the old 30W G12H. The mics were: Fostex M11RP Ribbon, AKG 535EB, Countryman lavaliere into the John Hardy M-1 mic pres and SSL mic pres. They were all summed to one channel and then went through a UREI 530 9 band EQ and then through a BBE 802. The BBE was not on all tracks.


One more little piece of trivia on George's tone on ULAK: we used 2 Marshalls and 2 Laneys. The main Marshall (I think it was a 100W Lead) was used for the high end and one of the Laneys was used for the low end > two cabinets in the same (big) room at Amigo Studios in North Hollywood, one of them the same 4x12 30W cab as on the Extreme (and White Lion) records. The other Marshall (50W Plexi) was sent to a cabinet in a small tiled bathroom. The second Laney was sent into a smallish but very dry room and had a bit of a Boss Chorus on it. All together we had 16 microphones all mixed together to one output buss. The mic pres were the original ones in the MCI500 series console. From there (and I am
NOT
kidding) we sent it to a Fostex cassette 4 track on 10 and then into the UREI 530 EQ then straight to the track of a 3M digital 32 track. That was the main guitar sound on ULAK.


Hope this helps
:thu:

 

 

Thank you!! :thu:

 

 

Good to see one of the true greats at Harmony Central! :cool:

 

 

I remember seeing yours (I think?) & Flemming Rassmussen's posts over at GearSlutz.com, in regards to Metallica's Master of Puppets album.

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Icon's John Aquilino used the same stuff as Wexler. They used Audio Arts parametric EQ's and they had a Deltalab delay for their chorus sounds if I remember correctly.


My buddy and I hung out with Aquilino for a couple hours before a show at the Country Club. He showed us everything in his rack. It was almost information overload because I was such a huge, HUGE fan of their tone on that first album.


I never saw Wexler with a Les Paul. He always had a Jackson Rhoads when I saw him, JB equipped though.


That first Icon album had absolutely monstrous tones.


The best live tones I ever heard in LA in the "glory days" was Icon, Rough Cutt, Doug Aldrich in Lion and Stryper.


I saw TNT in a very small club in Huntington Beach on the Intuition tour and Ronni's tone and playing were as unbelievable as I expected them to be. I saw them 4 night in a row on that tour.


Kurt James also had a great tone. He was the guy who replaced Yngwie in Steeler and he played with Sarzo and Aldridge in Driver.

 

 

Yeah,yeah yeah, i know thread resurection:cop:

Curt I am glad you posted this info on ICON since there is virtually no info on their gear on the web? Great tone on that 1st record. I also sent you a Email with a few additional questions bout them

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I confess I only read half the thread and I agree with a lot. I do think the Lay it Down intro is great 80's tone. I also love the Malmsteen Trilogy tone I.e. You don't Remember, I'll Never Forget and especially Queen in Love. Actually its kind of funny, Yngwie has been using the same gear from the beginning but depending on the production, his tone changes. I actually like his tone on Inspiration the best.

 

Anyway, has anyone mentioned Scorpions? They had some great tones on Blackout and Love at First Sting. Love Mathias' lead tone on that.

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Woah Zombie thread!!!!

 

I really liked the tone on Still of The Night by Whitesnake. John Sykes has thicker oozing tone then my ball juice.

 

CC Deville on the Flesh & Blood album has this rockin semi clean mid rangy type tone that I always tried to get, but can't.

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I bought a Laney 50w AOR head in L.A. back in the 80's. Of couse the guy said it was used by Ratt.


Personally, Unless I buy it off of the celebrity himself, it's all BS to me.

 

 

I bought a AOR 100 because of this tone! Warren is using a early charvel loaded with a JB and 100 watt laney AOR stacks! sounds friggin amazing to me!

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Even those these two releases didn't come out in the 80's, I think that they are the pinnacle of 80's tone. I think that the engineers figured out that less chorus and delay and a hotter guitar sound in the mix made the records more in your face.

 

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I'd never consider AC/DC metal (certainly not hair metal!)... but Back In Black (1980) has some of the most killer marshall tone ever laid to tape....

 

 

I like there tone on the "Highway to Hell" album the most, although BnB was good too.

IMHO, Malcolm's tone on the song "Touch Too Much", is the best I've ever heard. It just keeps driving harder and harder right up until the end of the song.

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Ratt! I think they used Laney amps.

 

 

Beeftone just confirmed for me:

 

Ratt endorsed Laney back in the day. But Ratt was support for a band my tech used to work for and he stated that Demartini had his Marshall's mic'd behind the Laney backline for the tour they did together.

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