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Originally posted by angry again2



I saw Jackyl at a free outdoor concert where they were playing on a flatbed of a 18 wheeler. Both guitarists were using Les Pauls and JCM 800's. They had a killer sound.

 

I read that their lead guitarists uses EMG 85 in the bridge of the LP, with the 18v mod. He might also be using an overdrive unit on the floor as well.

 

I'd like ot have his tone.:o

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Originally posted by danyeo




A few people have come in here and said they had reliable sources that said that Nuno used a Mesa Boogie mark III on Porno. I don't doubt it. I saw him on the tour and i couldn't tell what he was using. And Nuno always supposedly was never accurate on what he was using. I met the guy in 1990, and he was one of the biggest assholes i ever met. Total rock star, better than you, atitude.

 

 

Thanks danyeo.

I know of Nuno ADA MP1, but in Milan I saw 10 Mesa Boogie full stacks on stage, and they were there when Extreme played their gig, heads where nowhere to be seen, but I can swear they sounded {censored}ing Mesa.

Anyway, ADA or Mesa, to me Pornograpphiti is best guitar tone ever.

I can tell you I own a Washburn N2 Nunon Bettencourt with Bill Lawrence at bridge and a Rectoverb and I can easily nail Nuno tone on Pornograpphiti.

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Not definitive by any means...

 

Tony MacAlpine... Tears of Sahara still gives me chills.

 

Tesla... Rock me to the top intro especially.

 

Chris Impelliteri... Stand in line.

 

Mr. Big... Especially Green tinted 60's mind.

 

Warrant... Machine gun...

 

Nelson... After the rain. Just kidding :)

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Originally posted by TWPietz37

Which famous 80's hair guitarist's tone do you like best? I have to go with Lynch on Under Lock and Key, great searing marshall lead tone IMO.


Tyler

 

 

Slash. I love the Guns 'n' roses tone. And Metallica...I gotta stick up for my boogies:)

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My top 5 80's hair tones:

 

RATT-Out of the Cellar

Def Leppard-High and Dry (Not sure if this is "hair" enough)

GNR-Appetite for Destruction

Motley Crue-Shout at the Devil (I love the raw aggresiveness there)

Tesla-The album with Modern Day Cowboy

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Originally posted by rbone100



That track is called "Smooth Syncopation" (SP) Killer playing. Ronnie used the Eventide Harmonizer on alot of his guitar work. I was waiting for the song Childs Play to start after that clip... You're a tease! My favorite TNT song has to be "Listen to Your Heart." If you haven't heard it check it out!


Ralphie

 

 

Actually that track is "Sapphire." "Smooth Syncopation," is two tracks later, after, "Child's Play," and is an acoustic piece.

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Originally posted by Mr 5150

Nunos Rig (allegedly.......)


Fender Vibroverb re-issue 2x12 combo

 

 

Not to nitpick, but wasn't the Vibroverb a 2x10 combo? Some POS stole mine many years ago, and I'm pretty sure it was a 2x10. Loved that amp.

 

As for the main topic. Criss Oliva's tone on Sirens pretty much kicked my ass at the time and Ross The Boss sound on the first 3 Manowar album. Very distinctive.

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All those bands that I heard using the Michael Wagener setup, with his production, had KILLER tones.

 

Thanx for the kind words guys (and girls?)

 

About Nuno's setup on Porno: we used a Furman PQ3 into an ADA MP1 pre-amp into a McIntosh 2500 power amp (transistor but with an output transformer), same setup as on some of the White Lion stuff and Skid Row's first album. Can't remember the cabinets/speakers, I know we had one original Marshall 4x12 with the old 30W G12H. The mics were: Fostex M11RP Ribbon, AKG 535EB, Countryman lavaliere into the John Hardy M-1 mic pres and SSL mic pres. They were all summed to one channel and then went through a UREI 530 9 band EQ and then through a BBE 802. The BBE was not on all tracks.

 

One more little piece of trivia on George's tone on ULAK: we used 2 Marshalls and 2 Laneys. The main Marshall (I think it was a 100W Lead) was used for the high end and one of the Laneys was used for the low end > two cabinets in the same (big) room at Amigo Studios in North Hollywood, one of them the same 4x12 30W cab as on the Extreme (and White Lion) records. The other Marshall (50W Plexi) was sent to a cabinet in a small tiled bathroom. The second Laney was sent into a smallish but very dry room and had a bit of a Boss Chorus on it. All together we had 16 microphones all mixed together to one output buss. The mic pres were the original ones in the MCI500 series console. From there (and I am NOT kidding) we sent it to a Fostex cassette 4 track on 10 and then into the UREI 530 EQ then straight to the track of a 3M digital 32 track. That was the main guitar sound on ULAK.

 

Hope this helps :thu:

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Thanx for the kind words guys (and girls?)


About Nuno's setup on Porno: we used a Furman PQ3 into an ADA MP1 pre-amp into a McIntosh 2500 power amp (transistor but with an output transformer), same setup as on some of the White Lion stuff and Skid Row's first album. Can't remember the cabinets/speakers, I know we had one original Marshall 4x12 with the old 30W G12H. The mics were: Fostex M11RP Ribbon, AKG 535EB, Countryman lavaliere into the John Hardy M-1 mic pres and SSL mic pres. They were all summed to one channel and then went through a UREI 530 9 band EQ and then through a BBE 802. The BBE was not on all tracks.


One more little piece of trivia on George's tone on ULAK: we used 2 Marshalls and 2 Laneys. The main Marshall (I think it was a 100W Lead) was used for the high end and one of the Laneys was used for the low end > two cabinets in the same (big) room at Amigo Studios in North Hollywood, one of them the same 4x12 30W cab as on the Extreme (and White Lion) records. The other Marshall (50W Plexi) was sent to a cabinet in a small tiled bathroom. The second Laney was sent into a smallish but very dry room and had a bit of a Boss Chorus on it. All together we had 16 microphones all mixed together to one output buss. The mic pres were the original ones in the MCI500 series console. From there (and I am
NOT
kidding) we sent it to a Fostex cassette 4 track on 10 and then into the UREI 530 EQ then straight to the track of a 3M digital 32 track. That was the main guitar sound on ULAK.


Hope this helps
:thu:

 

 

Ordinarily, you'd get raped for resurrecting a threasd this old, but I think your case will be an exception. :wave::thu::eek:

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Thanx for the kind words guys (and girls?)


About Nuno's setup on Porno: we used a Furman PQ3 into an ADA MP1 pre-amp into a McIntosh 2500 power amp (transistor but with an output transformer), same setup as on some of the White Lion stuff and Skid Row's first album. Can't remember the cabinets/speakers, I know we had one original Marshall 4x12 with the old 30W G12H. The mics were: Fostex M11RP Ribbon, AKG 535EB, Countryman lavaliere into the John Hardy M-1 mic pres and SSL mic pres. They were all summed to one channel and then went through a UREI 530 9 band EQ and then through a BBE 802. The BBE was not on all tracks.


Hope this helps
:thu:

 

Michael, here are the ADA MP-1 settings you quoted. I'll post them for everyone, so you don't have to.

 

Here are the real settings:

Overdrive 1 : 4.0 dist

Overdrive 2 : 5.5 dist

Master Gain : 7.5 dist

Bass : 12

Mid : 6

Treb : 6

Pres : 12

Voicing : .tube

FX loop : off

 

From the ADA it went into the McIntosh 2100 (transistor) poweramp and from there into a vintage Marshall 4x12 cab with the original G12H inside. At that time I normally used Fostex M11RP ribbon mics and Countryman Lavalier mics through a John Hardy M1 to record guitar.

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