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how do u get the tone on EVH's "eruption"


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i know u need tape echo and flange, how do u get the tone and gain settings from a 5150? I think he used a modded jcm800 2203 or some modded marshall, cuase when he recorded it there were no 5150s back then, but im sure the eruption tone is achevable from a 5150, my question is how, tell me where to turn each know and how much volume i need to achiave it? thanx

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Originally posted by wanky

i know u need tape echo and flange, how do u get the tone and gain settings from a 5150? I think he used a modded jcm800 2203 or some modded marshall, cuase when he recorded it there were no 5150s back then, but im sure the eruption tone is achevable from a 5150, my question is how, tell me where to turn each know and how much volume i need to achiave it? thanx

 

 

I heard he removed the plastic knob that said "volume" and replaced it with one that said "tone".

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I can't even play the damn thing :(

 

HOW IS ONE SUPPOSED TO DO

 

E_________0___________0___________0___________0

B_8-5-0________8-5-0________8-5-0_______8-5-0_______

G______8____________8____________8___________8___

At that speed!?

 

I just dont get it

 

:(

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Originally posted by cloudnine

I can't even play the damn thing
:(

HOW IS ONE SUPPOSED TO DO


E_________0___________0___________0___________0

B_8-5-0________8-5-0________8-5-0_______8-5-0_______

G______8____________8____________8___________8___

At that speed!?


I just dont get it


:(

that part sucks :(, ..Sweep picking makes it much easier

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Originally posted by cloudnine

I can't even play the damn thing
:(

HOW IS ONE SUPPOSED TO DO


E_________0___________0___________0___________0

B_8-5-0________8-5-0________8-5-0_______8-5-0_______

G______8____________8____________8___________8___

At that speed!?


I just dont get it


:(

 

Practice! :)

 

And why not try:

 

E_________________________

B_5-8-5-0_______5-8-5-0______

G_________8___________8____

 

?

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Originally posted by MisterBulbous



I heard he removed the plastic knob that said "volume" and replaced it with one that said "tone".

 

 

Umm the volume knob has a huge impact on tone, why do think they created things called power brakes aand attenuators?

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try the lead channel

 

pre gain around 4

bass around 4

mids around 6-7

treble around 5-6

resonance around 4

presence around 6-7

 

volume as loud as you can stand

 

that got pretty close to a VH tone with my 5150 head, of course the cab/speakers you're using could make a difference too...i tried an mxr eq pedal with a slight high end cut, and mid boost, which helped thicken the lead tone up just a bit

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Originally posted by Junkhead

that part sucks
:(
, ..Sweep picking makes it much easier

 

yeah hah, i wasted plenty of time on that one

 

this is where the fun is hiding in the tabs or catching our ears listening to it

 

i wasted even more one this one, it pissed me off for a while until practiced enought for it to be fun

 

e---------------------------16-h17-h20-----------------14-17-20-p17

b-----------16-h18-h20-----------------14-h17-h20------------------

g-12/18-------------------------------------------------------------------

 

e-20-p17-p14-h15-p14--------------------------------------------

b----------------------------17-p14-----14---------------------------

g--------------------------------------17-----17(w17)p14-h17-----

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Originally posted by wanky

i know u need tape echo and flange, how do u get the tone and gain settings from a 5150? I think he used a modded jcm800 2203 or some modded marshall, cuase when he recorded it there were no 5150s back then, but im sure the eruption tone is achevable from a 5150, my question is how, tell me where to turn each know and how much volume i need to achiave it? thanx

 

If you work with it you can really get some great VH I type tones out of a 5150 in my opinion. I use the combo though, sounds different than the head to my ears. What i do is hook it up to a 4x12 Marshall cab with Greenbacks. The cab with the 25 watters really changes the tone around compared to the Sheffields. There's a VH I tone clip i recorded at the top of my signature if you want to check it out. The reverb setting is different than on Eruption but if you added some more reverb, delay, and a little Phase 90 here and there i'm guessing it would probably sound great for that. Here's the settings i used (remember this is a combo, the head will most likely sound much different): Lead Pre - 5 1/2, Bass - 5 1/2, Mid - just a hair before 4, High - 0 1/2, Resonance - 5 1/2, Presence - hair above 8. High gain input. Seymour Duncan 59 pickup.

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Originally posted by Pavel



Practice!
:)

And why not try:


E_________________________

B_5-8-5-0_______5-8-5-0______

G_________8___________8____


?

 

Coz it's not correct. The open 1st string one is. He does the same thing in Hot For Teacher, but in F#

 

--0----------------------------------------------

-------5--2--0-----------------------------------

-------------------5----------------------------

 

And in the 2nd lead break of I'm the one, only in B

 

---0------------------------------------------------

--------10--7--0---------------------------------

----------------------10------------------------------

 

 

If you pick it like "Up, Up, Pull Off, Pull Off, Down" it works nicely.

 

But, what do I know.:confused:

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