Members Screaming Jem Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 ok, my engl screamer is playing up and i'm figuring i'm going to need to replace it in the near future so what do you think. i'm looking for nice big fat heavy tones but not over the top metal, probably from ac/dc to metallica etc. mostly played for hard rock like ozzy and skid row and gunners and that. anyone got any clips or insights??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFW Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Keep in mind that I might be a tad bit biased, but I think you should go with the Mark IV. It will provide you with the tones that you described and then some. R1 can get you nice fat blackface tones, R2 does great classic rock, and the Lead channel can do anything from liquid smooth leads to crack your skull heavy. Check the clips of R2 & the Lead Channel in my sig. Good luck in your search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gerrekat Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Both are probably awesome, I had a mark III (which I liked vvery much) but I'd definately go for the SAVAGE. It's more versatile and (far) less noisy than most marks I have heard at high gain applications. I also think the SAVAGE is a tad more versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BOOGIE666 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 for early metal like ozzy and metallica defiantly go with the mark IV. If you would have said canibul corpse, morbid angel covers I would have said Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Screaming Jem Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by BOOGIE666 for early metal like ozzy and metallica defiantly go with the mark IV.If you would have said canibul corpse, morbid angel covers I would have said Savage. do the mark IV's have reliability issues??? overheating? i heard that somewhere any other mesas that would be better suited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shiny_Surface Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Screaming Jem do the mark IV's have reliability issues??? overheating? i heard that somewhereany other mesas that would be better suited? Mark IV's have a cooling fan. You are in Australia? Availability and high mark up costs may be factors you need to consider as well. It might be more cost effective to get an Engl over there. Mark IV's are great amps, especially for old school metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by SFW Keep in mind that I might be a tad bit biased, but I think you should go with the Mark IV. It will provide you with the tones that you described and then some. R1 can get you nice fat blackface tones, R2 does great classic rock, and the Lead channel can do anything from liquid smooth leads to crack your skull heavy. Check the clips of R2 & the Lead Channel in my sig. Good luck in your search! Hey man, very nice clips! Just curious what cab/speakers you used, or do you have the combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by SFW R2 does great classic rock Just out of curiosity, what are your R2 settings? I hang out on the lead channel most of the time, and I've been looking (though not very actively) for a good crunch tone like the clips in your sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Screaming Jem Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Shiny_Surface Mark IV's have a cooling fan. You are in Australia? Availability and high mark up costs may be factors you need to consider as well.It might be more cost effective to get an Engl over there.Mark IV's are great amps, especially for old school metal. yeah, i know, it will be a major investment for the head its about 4000 i'm hoping to find one on ebay but the savage here is almost the same as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yngzaklynch Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 I like the Mk IV better but I can't rip on the Engls as they are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BOOGIE666 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 mine mark IV has been in service sence 1991 and the only thing that has been done to maintain it is putting in new tubes when they start to sound flat. Hell the thing hasnt even been recapped. Mark IV's are ultra reliable anybody who says different is a idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFW Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Exocaster Just out of curiosity, what are your R2 settings? I hang out on the lead channel most of the time, and I've been looking (though not very actively) for a good crunch tone like the clips in your sig. Mesa/Boogie Mark IV >Marshall JCM800 1960A Cab loaded with GT70s. Gain: 8, Treble: 8.5, Mid: 5, Bass: 4, Pres: 4, MVol 3 The pull fat switch was pulled. Lead: Gain: 8, Treb: 7.5 (8), Mid: 4 (3), Bass: 3-3.5, LDrive: 8 (9) LM: 3, Pres: 3 Oh yeah... there were EHEL34s in the V1 & V4 power tube positions. EQ always on. From left to right (in inches): 1/4 above center, Center, 1/4 blow center, center, 1/8 below center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thanks for the settings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFW Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Exocaster Thanks for the settings! NP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robotechnology Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Can't go wrong with either choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mctallica1 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Robotechnology Can't go wrong with either choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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