Members SoundwaveLove Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 We've got the APC40 for 400 bucks: The Livid Ohm for $600 and the Novation launch pad for $200 Money is an issue, I'm thinking the APC40 has the most bang for buck, with pads AND knobs and silders. The Ohm looks cool as hell but what can it really do that the apc can't? Launch pad seems cool, but no knobs? no cross fader? seems to com up a bit short? What yall think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unfed Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 i'll eventually be going with the APC40 myself, but the LaunchPad looks interesting. not sure i could do without the physical controls though (the grid buttons work as 'sliders' for track volume, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metrosonus Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Size is also a consideration. The APC 40 is larege enough to require a separate bag as well as more table space. The launch pad is small enough to fit over the laptop keyboard (with jacks on the side!!) and you could easily add a small controller such as the MAudio knob / slider boxes, the NanoKontrols or the Akai nano rip offs and only be a little more than half the APC 40. that's my choice. I mostly play back clips too, so the launch pad is a good choice for that. I could see using the apc 40 for studio use though. it allows you to arm and record tracks and everything else from the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fogflip Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Even though the apc and the ohm have knobs and sliders. I still choose my monome. Enough different ableton apps to suit your needs weather for clip launching or for creating whole songs and at 500, 800, or 1400. I think its the best bang for the buck in the grid controller category (besides not having sliders or knobs) just my .02 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoundwaveLove Posted October 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Even though the apc and the ohm have knobs and sliders. I still choose my monome. Enough different ableton apps to suit your needs weather for clip launching or for creating whole songs and at 500, 800, or 1400. I think its the best bang for the buck in the grid controller category (besides not having sliders or knobs) just my .02 cents Which one do you have? and what does it do that the launchpad cannot do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unfed Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 The launch pad is small enough to fit over the laptop keyboard ... this *is* an excellent 'feature', didn't even think of that. ... I could see using the apc 40 for studio use though. it allows you to arm and record tracks and everything else from the front. this is what does it for me. i figure that with the APC i should be able to sequence parts just as easily as i used to with my MPC. hate dicking with the mouse for this sort of thing. wish it had knobs instead of sliders though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fogflip Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 I have an arduinome and a 256 i guess once some one writes the midi to serial software it will run as a monome but then you have larger buttons and some apps from what i have read dont run as well or at all. Most people dont care but monome's are made in america not in china. But i would say my biggest personal complaint with the launch pad would be button size i prefer the extremely tiny buttons that make up the monome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metrosonus Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 this is what does it for me. i figure that with the APC i should be able to sequence parts just as easily as i used to with my MPC. hate dicking with the mouse for this sort of thing. wish it had knobs instead of sliders though. I can do that with my nanokontrol quite easily as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crazycarl Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 don't forget the korg nanokontrol: with this preset and live midi map it's a strong contender for the price: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/08/18/nanokontrol-myr-for-ableton-live-free-powerful-control-for-live/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diametro Posted October 24, 2009 Members Share Posted October 24, 2009 Akai nano rip offs ... seem much-better made and desirable than the $20-cheaper Korgs ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I don't like none of them have pads. Those are only on/off buttons ... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metrosonus Posted October 25, 2009 Members Share Posted October 25, 2009 There's all three. The knobs do look better on the Akai, but they also have the pads. I personally would like an entire strip of two rows of knobs...oh well. were lucky to have so many portable controllers these days. Akai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoundwaveLove Posted October 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 There's a lot to consider. I'm thinking of selling my FS Orb to finance one of these... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlabbee Posted October 26, 2009 Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 This is pretty impressive (watch the video): http://www.ableton.com/launchpad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Awake77 Posted October 26, 2009 Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 I have the APC-40. It's awesome from both a production and performance standpoint. I haven't even started exending its capabilities yet - stock is can do so much and really makes Ableton/PC feel like a piece of hardware. I love my X-Station 25, but am strongly considering selling it picking up the Akai LPK25 for live performances...there's never enough room in a DJ booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted October 26, 2009 Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 Which one do you have? and what does it do that the launchpad cannot do? The Launchpad does not support Open Sound Control, whereas the Monome does. Also, the Monome runs Max/MSP patches. If you don't need OSC or Max 5/MaxMSP/Max For Live, then the Launchpad might be a better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlabbee Posted October 26, 2009 Members Share Posted October 26, 2009 The Launchpad does not support Open Sound Control, whereas the Monome does. Also, the Monome runs Max/MSP patches. If you don't need OSC or Max 5/MaxMSP/Max For Live, then the Launchpad might be a better deal. I'm pretty sure the Launchpad does Max for Live - it's listed on the Ableton site as a feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted October 27, 2009 Members Share Posted October 27, 2009 I'm pretty sure the Launchpad does Max for Live - it's listed on the Ableton site as a feature. You're right. Launchpad appears to be a really good deal if you only use Ableton Live and Max For Live. The Monome is better suited as a general purpose controller (not specific to Ableton), plus it has the built-in accelerometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoundwaveLove Posted October 28, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 28, 2009 I have the APC-40. It's awesome from both a production and performance standpoint. Just how big is it? I can't really find a good size comparison picture of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unfed Posted October 29, 2009 Members Share Posted October 29, 2009 ^^ i've asked myself the same thing. i guess it's about 17"x13" or so (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metrosonus Posted October 29, 2009 Members Share Posted October 29, 2009 about the size of a medium or large (depending on brand) pizza box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Awake77 Posted October 29, 2009 Members Share Posted October 29, 2009 Just how big is it? I can't really find a good size comparison picture of it. ^^ i've asked myself the same thing. i guess it's about 17"x13" or so (?). Yeah right about that...17 x 12.5 For comparison: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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