Members Peter Diezel Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by cloudnine Peter, I am scouring the place for Diezel clips!!! NOW do you want me to go to bed? No, no, no Should I bring the coffee Hold on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Peter Diezel Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Duesentrieb Was'n hier los? Der Kaspar meint, das Chassis w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudnine Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Milk and sugar please What speakers do you find work well with Einstein? I have a '72 Marshall 4x12 with Greenbacks but I think you mentioned that you test with V30s and that is what the Diezel cabs are loaded with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duesentrieb Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Peter Diezel Der Kaspar meint, das Chassis w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudnine Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 *uses altavista translator**attempts to decode terrible translation* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Peter Diezel Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by cloudnine Milk and sugar please What speakers do you find work well with Einstein? I have a '72 Marshall 4x12 with Greenbacks but I think you mentioned that you test with V30s and that is what the Diezel cabs are loaded with. For clean and crunch You are good withthe greenbags. For highgain I prefer the V30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudnine Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Ich bin wirklich eine der wenigen Leute hier, wer nicht high gain m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Peter Diezel Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by cloudnine Ich bin wirklich eine der wenigen Leute hier, wer nicht high gain m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudnine Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Don't be too rough, it might break. Good night (day) Peter, Olaf, and James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inferno79 Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by cloudnine Milk and sugar please What speakers do you find work well with Einstein? I have a '72 Marshall 4x12 with Greenbacks but I think you mentioned that you test with V30s and that is what the Diezel cabs are loaded with. I thought a mix of Greenbacks and V30 works exceptionally well with the Einstein when I had the opportunity to do side by side comparison with several cabs. Today I ordered two Greenbacks for my all V30 cab. Schon mal probiert Peter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WillShrdForFood Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by honey-nipples yeah, 4 hours close..... I used to work at that GC back in '99 Sumbitch stole my avatar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Peter Diezel Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by inferno79 I thought a mix of Greenbacks and V30 works exceptionally well with the Einstein when I had the opportunity to do side by side comparison with several cabs. Today I ordered two Greenbacks for my all V30 cab. Schon mal probiert Peter? Ja, klingt auch nicht schlecht ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rufus Leaking Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Peter Diezel Nonsense ! The Herbert chassis has a thickness of 2 millimeters. I have never seen this size on other amps. I had one that was fallen down from a stack and worked perfectly. Please stop telling bull{censored} ! Thanks, Peter FWIW;The Mako chassis is 3.2 mm (.125") thick hard anodized aluminum.Chassis mounted porcelain tube sockets.Mil-spec hand soldering etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Peter Diezel Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Rufus Leaking FWIW; The Mako chassis is 3.2 mm (.125") thick hard anodized aluminum. Chassis mounted porcelain tube sockets. Mil-spec hand soldering etc... Aluminium is not steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JamesPeters Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Peter Diezel Take a beer I may have to soon! I think my tea is working though (peppermint, chamomile)... Originally posted by Peter Diezel Aluminium is not steel True. 2mm of good steel is incredibly strong. Ask me why I know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Smokey Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by thegame Have I played a Diezel amp? I've bought, played, jammed with, recorded, and sold a Diezel amp for your information. Here's the deal; I'm not saying the Diezel chassis is particularly weak, I'm saying that when moderate force is applied to the middle of it (in the back) the chassis moves in and out a bit. Mine did, thats for {censored}ing sure. What does that have to do with the operation of the amp? Nothing! But here's the point; lets say you (or a roadie who doesn't give a {censored}) drops it and it lands on a hard surface of some sort, like stairs or the edge of a cabinet. That spot is going to dent and push the componets around inside! The point of bringing Mako and Wizard into the equation regarding build quality is that you'd have to pound on the chassis with a {censored}ing hammer to make the slightest indentation on the chassis of those amps. A friend of mine accidently dropped his Wizard down a 13 stair flight of stairs and that amp bounced 3 or 4 times on the way down and landed hard on concrete. The wooden headshell was damaged but the chassis was unscathed. Afterwords when plugged in the Wizard performed perfectly. Would a Diezel still work after being put through that? Maybe, maybe not, but I think the chances of a Diezel working perfectly after such an accident (or other blatant abuse) would be less than that of a Wizard or Mako. Tell you what. Buy one....drop it down that flight of stairs...test your theory. Otherwise shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rufus Leaking Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Peter Diezel Aluminium is not steel Steel is not aluminum either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duesentrieb Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Steel is much more flexible than aluminum (or german aluminium). Alu shields a bit better than steel though. Although nobody would rate a Diezel "noisy" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JamesPeters Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Duesentrieb Steel is much more flexible than aluminum (or german aluminium). Alu shields a bit better than steel though. Although nobody would rate a Diezel "noisy" . Aluminum and steel shield different things differently. I don't mind using either for chassis material, as long as either is made well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Peter Diezel Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Rufus Leaking Steel is not aluminum either Congratulations, we have a winner :D Btw, the Herbert has an extra frontpanelwhich has 4 mm aluminium.So we have 2 mm steel and 4 mm aluminium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duesentrieb Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Peter Diezel Congratulations, we have a winner :D Btw, the Herbert has an extra frontpanel which has 4 mm aluminium. So we have 2 mm steel and 4 mm aluminium. Didn't you see all your porn Diezel pics I've posted into this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duesentrieb Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 page 8 btw . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Digital Jams Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 I am playing a Herbert tomorow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by JamesPeters Aluminum and steel shield different things differently. I don't mind using either for chassis material, as long as either is made well. I would, the effects loop on my VH4 is much nopiser than my dual rec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maz_master Posted May 20, 2006 Members Share Posted May 20, 2006 Originally posted by Snider Totally agree. The full frequency is not there. It took me three tries over more than a year and I was a huge advocate but in the end- no cut, little vibe. If the amp was as good or better than channel 3 of the VH4 you would see more pro's using them. The Herbert is a good amp and has some amazing features and I would go as far to say it is the most versatile bedroom amp ever made as that is what I think it's amazing at, but in a band setting the Einstein and even better Channel 3 of the VH4 are far beyond Herbie. Ch 3 in VH4-That is a great tone to me. Steve,Which amp cuts better in these clips of VH4, Einstein, Herbert? To my ears, it's the Herbert. But, obviously, they can all be dialed/recorded differently to suit our individual tastes better. Point is, the Herbert shows no lack of ability to stand out in a mix! I know that it may not "feel" right to you, and that's cool, but from my listener's chair, it has tons of cut and vibe. Yeah, I know, I know...play one first and get back to you. Sounds like mine will get here in June sometime.http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1020566&highlight=herbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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