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Vernon Reid:Guitar genius or Overated hack?

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I know this kinda a apples and oranges type of deal but I just listened to a couple of Living Color discs Ive had. In paticular I was listening closer to the guitar tones and playing. Im am less than amazed and find his lead tone horrid and his lead playing to be very undynamic and bordeline in the realm of a Kerry King in the lead dept. Ive also found that the rest of the band was very solid and deserved more of the credit for their success IMO. The Cult of personality lead is Meh at best. Yet I dug them when they first came out.:freak:

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I remember when the video for Cult Of Personality came and the VJ's were comparing him to Hendrix. It seems like every black guitarist that plays fast they are compared to Hendrix:rolleyes:

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Vernon reid is just an all around nice dude who loves to play the guitar. I met him at a club once and the guy was beyond nice as hell and he will talk guitars with you till you are both blue in the face!!

 

That said, Although Ed D will disagree with me, the cult of personality lead is on my alltime shit list as far as solos go. I don;t care what anyone says it will always be a WTF were you thinking lead to me and I'm never gonna change my opinion. great tune almost ruined by the lead IMHO.

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He is far more than his LC stuff for one thing and he is a better player than most of the other guys that are placed on thrones by the masses here.

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Originally posted by gainfreak

Vernon reid is just an all around nice dude who loves to play the guitar. I met him at a club once and the guy was beyond nice as hell and he will talk guitars with you till you are both blue in the face!!


That said, Although Ed D will disagree with me, the cult of personality lead is on my alltime shit list as far as solos go. I don;t care what anyone says it will always be a WTF were you thinking lead to me and I'm never gonna change my opinion. great tune almost ruined by the lead IMHO.

Yeah Im thinking WTF on that lead in paticular also. I know he is a nice guy and has later more talented offerings.But those two Living Color cd's have some abrasive lead tones and work IMO.

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Originally posted by gainfreak

Vernon reid is just an all around nice dude who loves to play the guitar. I met him at a club once and the guy was beyond nice as hell and he will talk guitars with you till you are both blue in the face!!


That said, Although Ed D will disagree with me, the cult of personality lead is on my alltime shit list as far as solos go. I don;t care what anyone says it will always be a WTF were you thinking lead to me and I'm never gonna change my opinion. great tune almost ruined by the lead IMHO.

Actually Cult Of took even me a lot of getting used to. A bit too much reckless abandon. That said his Mistaken identity CD is one of my 10 Desert Island discs.

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Originally posted by V-Type

I know this kinda a apples and oranges type of deal but I just listened to a couple of Living Color discs Ive had. In paticular I was listening closer to the guitar tones and playing. Im am less than amazed and find his lead tone horrid and his lead playing to be very undynamic and bordeline in the realm of a Kerry King in the lead dept. Ive also found that the rest of the band was very solid and deserved more of the credit for their success IMO. The Cult of personality lead is Meh at best. Yet I dug them when they first came out.
:freak:

 

+1,0000000000

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Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro


Actually Cult Of took even me a lot of getting used to. A bit too much reckless abandon. That said his Mistaken identity CD is one of my 10 Desert Island discs.

 

Very cool Ed!! Im not familiar with that disc and I'll have to check it out!:thu:

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I like the COP solo. It has that out of control, in your face sense of urgency to it. Manic whammy bar wanking that gets you with that note that you don't expect and a good clear tone.

At least he had an identity and is not trying to be Eddie or Malmsteen for fuck sakes like so many others.

Its not an easy task to make those whammy scoops and dives cohesive and his rhythm playing is very cool too.:p

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A very accomplished guitarist who just happens to have dull, uninspired solos.

 

There's plenty of folks like that.

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An old band I was in did a cover of the song 'Cult Of Personality'...cool song until you got to the solo. :freak:

 

Maybe some of his other stuff sounds less like noise...I don't know. :confused:

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Originally posted by frtbzz

I like the COP solo. It has that out of control, in your face sense of urgency to it. Manic whammy bar wanking that gets you with that note that you don't expect and a good clear tone.

At least he had an identity and is not trying to be Eddie or Malmsteen for fuck sakes like so many others.

Its not an easy task to make those whammy scoops and dives cohesive and his rhythm playing is very cool too.
:p

 

I'm sure he could just shred with the best of them , but he's going for a more dynamic feel with his style and ,yes sometimes it does sound like reckless abandonment , but I dig it :thu:

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I don't HATE the solo in Cult too much though it sounds sort of fuzzy (sloppy?) and weird. Not a great solo by any means.

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Im listening to COP again I swear he is trying to shred but it doesnt sound like he's pulling it off to me. Unless thats what hes going for. Im gonna have to get the Cd that ED suggested earlier. The LC Riffs are cool but these leads are :freak: .

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Originally posted by Loghead

I don't like his playing, and I hate his tone.

 

Yeah, but you hate Boston... And Tolkien... so... :p

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Originally posted by Digital Jams

He is far more than his LC stuff for one thing and he is a better player than most of the other guys that are placed on thrones by the masses here.

 

+1

He's always been one of my favorite guitarists. He's background is much more avant-jazz, than rock, the atonality, expressionist sheets of sound and unusuall phraseing are all on purpose... I chuckle anytime I hear someone accuse him of playing random notes.

 

Btw, Masque, his fusion band, is very good. 'Known Unknown' is a great guitar album.

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