Members Bernard Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 FLASH COST:FL512M- $149FL1024M- $299 That's $600.00 Dollars if your the ''keep the change'' type and want it fully loaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DmitryKo Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 finally a real black keyboard, no more {censored}ty silver or white Finally we get to know the most important feature of a modern digital synthesizer: its color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 OK, we are camped out side Bert Smorenburg's studio. The windows have steamed up, I think I see arm's flying round, that must be a video demo shoot... [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DmitryKo Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 Yamaha has kept the XF prices the same as the XS prices, NO PRICE INCREASE! Except that FW16E is now optional even on the 88-key model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremens Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 Finally we get to know the most important feature of a modern digital synthesizer: its color. well, if for you is irrelevant whether you date blonde or brunette I can't help you there. It's all about inspiration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miket156 Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 by Dmitryko:Except that FW16E is now optional even on the 88-key model. I missed that. But I guess someone could start with just the board and buy the other stuff later. Mike T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DmitryKo Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 well, if for you is irrelevant whether you date blonde or brunette I can't help you there. It's all about inspiration... I don't need any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tremens Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 to be honest for somebody who has already XS I don't see a slightest reason to upgrade especially that XS will get some XF touches like tap tempo etc with subsequent OS upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miket156 Posted August 3, 2010 Members Share Posted August 3, 2010 It depends on how you use an XS if you already have one. Players that primarily use the ROM voices, edit them, save them to user locations or edit them within Song mode on the internal sequences might not find the XF very attractive. Obviously its when you want to buy voice libraries and want to load a lot of different sounds and have to load them via the current sampler is where you run into trouble. Its just too slow. If the power goes out and you are not running off a continuous power supply, you're SOL. There will be players that have to have them, and others that don't. Cheers, Mike T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mediterranean Posted August 3, 2010 Members Share Posted August 3, 2010 Holy jit! Did you hear that sax???? I think they crammed Kenny G in it! And that harp layered with those beautiful pads/voices and those ethnic sounds!!!!! FILM MUSIC! I'm going to buy it! brb, checking my FICO score.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DmitryKo Posted August 3, 2010 Members Share Posted August 3, 2010 Did you hear that sax???? I think they crammed Kenny G in it! They will say this demo is invalid because Yamaha didn't use physical modelling (whatever it means) to recreate this sound :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no eats yes Posted August 3, 2010 Members Share Posted August 3, 2010 Well, it's really no news that Kenny G sounds like a cheap Yamaha sax patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members avl_digital Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 I've just bought the Roland Fantom G8 and I have 15 days to try it and refund it if I want. What should I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -groovatious- Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 They will say this demo is invalid because Yamaha didn't use physical modelling (whatever it means) to recreate this sound :poke: Nah - it's not bad. But the best Soprano sax I ever heard/played was on a Roland Fantom (not sure which revision). Killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 I've just bought the Roland Fantom G8 and I have 15 days to try it and refund it if I want. What should I do?The Famton G has probably the most power sequencer (MV8800 better for groove stuff) of the work stations. It provides a seperate midi out to control another set of sixteen midi parts.If the sound set and your ability to add samples is all you need then it may be the best for you if you need the power of the sequencer.If you just need a big rompler with loads of ready made samples, then it looks like the Yam is leading the field just now. But it is still all down to what you need.Korg have improved their sequencer and added content (best used with RAM expansion) so some may prefer that.If you do your home work (listen to demo's etc) the one you need should be obvious. They all offer something unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MartinHines Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 I've just bought the Roland Fantom G8 and I have 15 days to try it and refund it if I want. What should I do? Hopefully you also demoed the Yamaha Motif XS before you purchased the Roland Fantom G. The Motif XF is really the Motif XS with alot more sounds/samples and a few interface improvements. Only you can decide which keyboard is right for you. There will always be new keyboards being released every few years, so the best you can do is decide which is best for you at that point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members avl_digital Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 Honestly I didn't have the opportunity to try the Motif XS. I wanted sounds and a good sequencer but I think that my "perfect" idea of a sequencer is the MV8800. The Fantom G has a lot of potential, so I hope that in the future some OS releases & ARX expansions give me all I want (I don't know why there are some features in the MV that doesn't appear in the Fantom G sequencer and to buy both is a little redundant to me). Other option I got is to keep the G with me and to wait the release of the Motif XF rack to get more sounds. I'm always a doubt-man... thanks for listen to me anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yamahamian Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 Folks, I know there's lots of questions, misconceptions and valid critiques about the Motif XF -- no one board can be all things to all players and producers. To drill way down to the granular level and get your questions answered, please visit the Motifator Web site: http://4wrd.it/MOTIFATOR. To register for product info and availability: http://4wrd.it/INSPIRATION. For general product info: http://4wrd.it/MOTIFXFPRODUCTPAGE. Happy playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miket156 Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 AVl Digital: A number of players that I know through music chat rooms are not all that happy with workstation rack synths. There's just too much buried in a workstation to make a rack based sound module worth buying. One of the more experience players that has owned rack synths posted on Music Player that he will never buy another rack synth again. To limiting, to frustrating. If you like the Roland sound set, you can't worry about other synths. Personally I find the sequencer on my Motif ES8 easy to operate and productive. But yamaha has never been know for easy interfaces. The new XF is two generations newer than my ES and I've looked at some of the screens on line and it is a lot more intuitive than the ES. But I learned how to work with my ES8 and I still love the sound after 6 years of steady use. I know of one other player that likes his M3 a lot. its very easy to use, and cheaper than the Motif line. I think the M3 is too bright sounding for my taste, but I can see that it is a worthwhile music tool at a great price. Different strokes...... Mike T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members neophool Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 i wonder how much easier?/faster/more convenient copying/sampling my favorite software sample libraries to an XF would be. I'm talking pretty big multisamples from Trillian, Onmisphere, East West Orchestral samples etc. I realize that i won't be able to really have good control of them without Kontact, but it might beat lugging around a laptop and the extra 15 minutes of setup time for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mediterranean Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 Sexy-looking machine!What I personally like about it:1. Realistic pianos and other acoustic instruments [still subjective. Opinion might change after listening to it]2. Thinner/flatter than many other workstations3. 128-note polyphony4. 1,024 Normal Voices5. 64 Drum Kits6. Analog inputs for sampling7. 24-bit A/D 8. Software editor 9. Digital Out10. FireWire input [needs some kind of optional harware add-on]. Allows you to record 16 tracks of audio to your DAW. But only works with Cubase I think. Not sure.11. Direct audio recording to any USB memory device12. Expandable to up to 2GB of flash memory through memory modules13. BlackWhat I wish it had:1. Balanced analog outputs2. Joystick instead of wheels3. Touch-screen, bigger, and more angled display [Korg Oasis:idea:]What I don't like about it:Can't afford itTo the KSS member who will buy it first: Please upload a piano demo as soon as you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 WOOOOO that XF6 looks sexy :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k2500x Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 I must admit, aesthetically it is quite pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DankL Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 I must admit, aesthetically it is quite pleasing. +1, Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burster Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hopefully they will release a rack version, in black, in about 6-12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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