[Nerine]

Hi,

 

In January i will have saved about 1k to spend on a new amp.

 

I'm mainly playing rock to hard rock, not really any metal, but i do dabble sometimes. I want some nice mid gain tones and i want some higher gain tones for leads etc.

 

The amp must

 

1. If it has one channel, have an fx loop so i can boost the volume with a GE7

 

2. Reverb is not important but dont mind either way

 

3. Not be a Mesa or Peavey

 

4. Not be a TSL or DSL, i dont like them.

 

5. Currently looking at the THD Uni or BiValve, Orange Rockerverb 50, Soldano HR 50.

 

6. I really want something that will either complement my Mesa or blow it out of the water tonally so i can flog it and buy more amps.

 

7. Should i be looking at ENGL or Framus also?

 

8. Wattage isnt really important, I personally do not need more than 50 but whatever will do cos ill probably buy an attenuator if it is a loud 'un.

 

 

My Mesa just seems to be struggling to cut like i want it to and is beginning to lack in fluidity. My opinion of it is slowly waning, although i still really like it i feel that atm, the rockerverb will get me nearer to where i need to be. I think they sound a bit more old school which is the kinda sound i am after. The Mesa, no matter how i dial it just seems to sound too modern all the time.

 

Cheers.

[blargh]

Uh....why is the thread title "wattage" if it isn't important

edit: well, you changed it, and now I look like an ass

[Nerine]

Soz, that got typed in there by accident.

It has now got the title that i originally wanted.

[algroves]

Metroamp/Marshall 1969 Plexi clone? Could have an FX loop installed in about an hour if your handy.

 

Al

[Sick Michael]

If you want something different from your mesa, then I would look at a LaneyVH100R or the new multi-channel Marshall head.

 

The Laney is a better amp (IMO) than the Recto you have and its not expensive either. Save some money in the process and then get yourself some nice quality effects unit and you'll be set.

[Nerine]

Thanks.

 

Im not into using effects that much tbh, i cant remeber the last time i used my MM4. I only use a bit of delay, boost and wah here and there.

i have heard the Laneys before and while i thought that they sounded good, i thought that they just seemed a bit dull and generic IMHO!

 

VHT's?

[Forbidden]

Cornford Hurricane

[CFC]

Splawn Quickrod!!!

[Nerine]

I would quite like to check out the Splawns, but i have a sneaking suspicion they wouldnt be so easy to get hold of in the UK?

[Sick Michael]

 

Originally posted by Nerine Thanks. Im not into using effects that much tbh, i cant remeber the last time i used my MM4. I only use a bit of delay, boost and wah here and there. i have heard the Laneys before and while i thought that they sounded good, i thought that they just seemed a bit dull and generic IMHO! VHT's?

 

mmm...ok....well, sure if you dont mind paying a fair bit, the VHT would be an excellent choice, although they are fairly modern sounding amps.

 

Some other suggestions:

 

Mesa Mark III (second hand)

Egnater TOL (second hand)

 

Or you could just get a cheap JCM 800 also used. Slap it with a stomp box, and you'll get great tone. Im still not convinced you need to break the bank.

[XiXora]

lets see.

 

Engl invader is somewhat outside your price... i dont know how much the other engls cost.

 

Marshall JVM is 799 RRP so if you could get that cheaper in a shop youd have a bit of money spare for something else, cheap guitar perhaps?

 

the THD amps are supposed to be very good and lively anyway

 

they are the only amps i've looked in to with some detail.

[Nerine]

Must admit, i quite like the Idea of an 800,

I have a feeling that they would cut real well and be aggresive as fuck!!! Real Rock like.

 

Maybe get An 800, AND a RV50 used!

 

Three heads would be pretty awesome, but would need more cabs!!

 

saw this though:love:

 

 

 

[yourguitarhero]

Look into some Matamp stuff

 

www.matamp.co.uk

 

I'm a big fan of them. They have a tone that's quite unique, are suited for rock (not metal amps), they are all one-offs and the customer service is excellent. Yiou can go to the factory and see the amps gettign made (yours if you order). they always like visitors.

[yourguitarhero]

Check out the King Street

[KarateSchnitzel]

not a multi channel fan...but have you thought about the new marshall jvm series......

 

from the reviews i've read...sounds like it could really be what you're after to blow that mesa out the water..

 

 

PS Merry Xmas Y'all....in the spirit with a beer and the pogues right now! xx

[triumphant_gleam]

I was gonna suggest the JCM800 reissue. I've got one and it's the absolute tits

[Nerine]

I reckon its going to be a toss up between the RV50 and the JCM 800 RI:thu:

[yourguitarhero]

Get the Marshall vintage Modern 50 head - it's under

[Dave_Mc_2]

Originally posted by Sick Michael If you want something different from your mesa, then I would look at a LaneyVH100R or the new multi-channel Marshall head. The Laney is a better amp (IMO) than the Recto you have and its not expensive either. Save some money in the process and then get yourself some nice quality effects unit and you'll be set.

 

I'd probably look at the tt for rock and hard rock. it's a nice amp.

 

I guess, what do you mean by rock and hard rock, nerine?

 

 

Originally posted by Forbidden Cornford Hurricane

 

ooh, +1!

 

little over though, at

[jaeger28]

If you like it rich, fat and a bit loose: Orange Rockerverb 50 or Bogner Shiva

 

If you like it punchy and tight: VHT Fifty/CL, Splawn Quickrod or Diezel Einstein

 

Just my suggestion, but in that range there is lots of choice. I like the tone of the Marshall Vintage Modern as well ... try as many as you can and just go for what feels best.

[Nerine]

I would class hard rock as sort of sabbathy with a bit more gain, and rock a bit less but with a bit more mid range.

 

Played war pigs through a Rockerverb 50....

 

[hal9000]

Originally posted by Nerine I would class hard rock as sort of sabbathy with a bit more gain, and rock a bit less but with a bit more mid range. Played war pigs through a Rockerverb 50....

If you like a heavy midrange sound, how about adding a good treble booster or TS-808-type overdrive to push your Recto? I've had really good luck with both my HBE Germania and DigiTech Bad Monkey boosting my Tremoverb. Since the EQ on the Recto is post distortion, all you have to do is compensate for the up front pedal as need be. For instance, a treble booster adds lots of mids and highs, so I like to drop the gain, treble and mids, and increase the bass. My Germania makes my T-verb sound like it has EL-34s instead of 6L6s.

[algroves]

Originally posted by Nerine Must admit, i quite like the Idea of an 800, I have a feeling that they would cut real well and be aggresive as fuck!!! Real Rock like.   Maybe get An 800, AND a RV50 used!   Three heads would be pretty awesome, but would need more cabs!!   saw this though:love:

[algroves]

 

Originally posted by yourguitarhero Get the Marshall vintage Modern 50 head - it's under

[Nerine]

Originally posted by hal9000 If you like a heavy midrange sound, how about adding a good treble booster or TS-808-type overdrive to push your Recto? I've had really good luck with both my HBE Germania and DigiTech Bad Monkey boosting my Tremoverb. Since the EQ on the Recto is post distortion, all you have to do is compensate for the up front pedal as need be. For instance, a treble booster adds lots of mids and highs, so I like to drop the gain, treble and mids, and increase the bass. My Germania makes my T-verb sound like it has EL-34s instead of 6L6s.

 

 

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