Members k2500x Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 It's more than just a VA + ROMpler... it's got physical modeling (strings), modeling + samples (the new EP engine), and a 6-op FM synth, plus it's a full-fledged workstation with audio tracks and Karma 2... and as said, it can be had for under 3K.So, fail. fail...? Grow up man. I'm sure the stated 'price range' of the Jupiter 80 is MSRP, and the only Kronos I know with >= 76 keys has a MSRP of $4750.And until we actually know the feature set of the new Jupiter trying to argue that it's overpriced is just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 You implied the Kronos is a VA+rompler And I'm not even going to get into the # of keys argument and graded hammer vs. synth action... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burster Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Every once in a while Roland releases a top-of-the-line instrument, usually incorporating some kind of new technology (to Roland instruments at least). Then over the course of the next however many years they release cheaper instruments that are derivative of that first most-expensive instrument. This could be what Roland is attempting with the Jupiter-80. If that is the case, I'm quite interested to learn what it is. I'm still a Roland fan but, releasing a synth with only a 76 key version available cuts into the buyer market. A lot of players like myself would rather have 61 keys or less to save space. FWIW. I did used a QS7.1 for years and finally sold it to save space. I guess one thing to remember is the original Fantom (FA-76) was a 76 key synth which seemed to be released as a tie over synth until the Fantom S series was released. Maybe this is what Roland is doing again. The Jupiter 880 is the one to wait for. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 If this was a full blown analog Jupiter 8 redux with modern tweaks, what would your reaction be: Shock? A scramble to get an order in? A scramble to get two orders in... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cresshead Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 if indeed it's a full analogue tweeked up re issue of a jupiter 8 i'll VERY happy i waited for the tempest release date and not to have jumped for a mopho keys + tetra so i can switch my choice to a roland jupiter! somehow though i really do not think roland will go down the moog route and re make a classic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 It's NOT going to be an analog reissue of the Jup-8, you can be 100% sure of that See, that's why Roland shouldn't recycle the names of their old landmark products... all it does is get people confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cresshead Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 It's NOT going to be an analog reissue of the Jup-8, you can be 100% sure of thatSee, that's why Roland shouldn't recycle the names of their old landmark products... all it does is get people confused. do you work for Roland?or is hat your best guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Have you read the thread so far, and listened to the sounds in the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I saw a closed-door preview of it at NAMM while in prototype form. I can't say anything specific until Messe, but the most important aspect of it is not what anyone's expecting. Well, at least I wasn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asynchro_nous Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hey, maybe they'll be the first to implement an onboard multipoint touchscreen controller. It's certainly time for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I saw a closed-door preview of it at NAMM while in prototype form. I can't say anything specific until Messe, but the most important aspect of it is not what anyone's expecting. Well, at least I wasn't... Argh. This is turning into a total messe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnmoorejohn Posted March 29, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Analog engineers are a dying breed. I would be shocked if any of the engineers employed by roland knew enough about analog circuits to all of a sudden come up with another Jupiter 8 type analog synth. Most engineers only know digital these days. If any of the big three were to come out with new analog synths, they would build up to it like korg is with the monotron. Most likely, you would see a monosynth come out first. Even Moog does not make a polysynth currently. It is a 100% certain that the Juiter 80 is not an 8 voice analog synth. That is why the teaser video uses the word 'spirit'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asynchro_nous Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Argh.This is turning into a total messe. Eine hei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Craig is witholding valuable informations! HOW DARE HE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hogberto Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I saw a closed-door preview of it at NAMM while in prototype form. I can't say anything specific until Messe, but the most important aspect of it is not what anyone's expecting. Well, at least I wasn't... oh lord, it's an accordion isn't it? a jupiter accordion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I could tell you a V-Accordion press conference horror story, but it would take too long to type right now It scarred me for life. Hint: the press conference took place in a small, hot demo room and they hadn't banned smoking yet at Messe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 oh lord, it's an accordion isn't it? a jupiter accordion. A Jupiter Accordion with REAL ANALOG oscillators ........ that sounds nothing like an accordion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asynchro_nous Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 OMG it's actually a Jupitar AT -- they finally brought aftertouch to the keytar world!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Craig is witholding valuable informations! HOW DARE HE If Roland didn't pay Craig to post that, they certainly should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asynchro_nous Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Roland would certainly benefit from an Anderton style product demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I'm putting my money on the new Juptier V-Banjo. It has superstrings that can be detuned for a phatter version of "Orange Blossom Special". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asynchro_nous Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 It has superstrings that can be detuned for a phatter version of "Orange Blossom Special". Nice theory! Har har hardy keytar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnmoorejohn Posted March 29, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Nice Craig! Way to turn this thread upside down and keep us wondering what you would never expect from a 76 key....something.. It must be some sort of new synthesis engine, or way of sharing or creating music that has never been attempted before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Roland will debut their own version of Karma, called Samsara -- which, we will discover, is merely an obscure name for the repackaging (or 'rebirth', if you will) of features and technologies from past workstations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I find it curious that Roland chose to bring back the name 'Jupiter' at the same time that Korg is releasing a Kronos. It sounds like Korg and Roland are being cute with each other over the names. Kronos was, after all, the father of Jupiter. But Jupiter (with his two brothers) eventually overthrew Kronos. Come to think of it, the overthrow was prophesied by none other than Uranus and -- you guessed it -- Gaia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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