Members cool_E Posted June 26, 2002 Members Share Posted June 26, 2002 First let me say that I believe Pat goes throughthis process to help one learn to search and thinkand he doesn't expect or advocate this processas the way to write every song. I did this oncealready and can say that going through the process of building a worksheet did providea lot of potential ideas. ---------------------In chapter 3 Pat does 2 things: 1. describes the process of building a worsheetas a brainstorming tool for a lyric 2. describes many types of rhymes. Here are the steps to build a worksheet1. Focus your lyric idea as clearly as you canYou can start several ways but the key is tofocus the idea. Writing from an emotion oreven simply a title are OK. 2a. Make a list of words that express your ideaPat goes through an illustrative example.Pat also suggests the use of a good thesaurus,"one set up to Roget's plan according to the flow of ideas." Follow trails through the thesaurusand generate a long list of words that expressinterseting ideas that could be used in your lyric. 2b. Cut the list down to 10 or 12 words.Don't be afraid to change later.Here are some guidelines to use when cutting:- if you are working with a title be sureto include words that contain it's key vowelsound- most of your words should end in a stressedsyllable- put any interesting words that duplicate thevowel sound of a word in your list next to thatword. 3. Look up each word in your rhyming dictionaryBe sure to use perfect and imperfect rhymes. Pat describes rhyme types here Perfect rhyme- the syllables' vowel sounds are the same- the consonant sounds after the vowels arethe same- the sounds before the vowels are different(cat, hat) Family rhyme- the syllables' vowel sounds are the same- the consonant sounds after the vowels belongto the same phonetic family- the sounds before the vowels are different phonetic families: plosives, fricatives, nasals plosives & fricatives have both voiced and unvoiced.(buy the book!) (rub, thud or love, buzz) Additive rhyme- the syllables' vowel sounds are the same- one of the syllables adds extra consonantsafter the vowel- the sounds before the vowel are different(free, treat) Subtractive rhyme- the syllables' vowel sounds are the same- one of the syllables adds extra consonantsafter the vowel- the sounds before the vowel are different(treat, free) Assonance rhyme - the syllables' vowel sounds are the same- the consonants after the vowel sounds are unrelated- the sounds before the vowel are different(satisfied, crime) -------------------OK, here's your job... Pick a title or song idea then build a worksheet.It would be helpful to others to post the worksheethere. If you actually get some lyric ideas outof the process post them as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Sonic Boy Posted June 29, 2002 Members Share Posted June 29, 2002 Once again thanks for posting these lessons, they are really interesting. Could you tell me if I can find a good online thesaurusand/or rhyming dictionary? (for english of course) thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cool_E Posted June 29, 2002 Author Members Share Posted June 29, 2002 don't know about an on-line thesaurus, for this exerciseI used the one in MS Word. I did find a couple of on-linerhyming dicsionaries. I posted links to them in anotherthread on this forum. I actually used the on-line rhymingdictionary to do that worksheet. I recently bought a good thesaurus & rhyming dictionary(~$30 total). I think they will be of some use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members songbreed Posted February 22, 2008 Members Share Posted February 22, 2008 after looking at your post.... i become very interested in pat's book i've search all over the internet to find it but i don't have the card to buy it... would you mind give a download link.... please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dean Roddey Posted February 22, 2008 Members Share Posted February 22, 2008 I dunno. Not to dis anyone who'se trying to help others, and if something works for you, it works and that's that. But I think this is way over-thinking it :-) It's all about the story and the emotion. It doesn't even have to rhyme particularly much of the time. I mean, and maybe I'm overstepping my boundaries here and will stand corrected, but does anyone know of even one single great rock/pop song was ever written via this mechanistic a system? The really good stuff has more to do with just doing self-psychiatry to music :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kurdy Posted February 22, 2008 Members Share Posted February 22, 2008 I dunno. Not to dis anyone who'se trying to help others, and if something works for you, it works and that's that. But I think this is way over-thinking it :-) It's all about the story and the emotion. It doesn't even have to rhyme particularly much of the time. I mean, and maybe I'm overstepping my boundaries here and will stand corrected, but does anyone know of even one single great rock/pop song was ever written via this mechanistic a system? The really good stuff has more to do with just doing self-psychiatry to music :-) I actually own this book, and though I appreciate what the author is trying to get at, and find his methods quite intriguing, I agree some of it is overkill. Much of the work this author suggests is necessary for preparing to write a song could be spent actually writing a song. It reminds me of a lot of self-improvement books which say "You too can achieve your dreams--all you need to do are pages and pages of these written essays and exercises". "What Color Is Your Parachute" comes to mind as one such example. Part of the reason for the book's complexity is that the author, Pat Pattison, is (or was) a Berklee professor, so many of the exercises are tailored to a classroom setting, especially some of the "group" exercises. The methods may be useful, but they do seem to be less practical outside of a classroom. One of my bandmates majored in Songwriting at Berklee, so I imagine she may have been one of the author's students, or at least been taught using his methods. She wrote one song that all her professors praised for being exemplary songwriting. That was over a decade ago, and she hasn't written a song since. She says it's because she feels she can never again measure up to that song. So yeah, even though these methods are meant to be helpful, I think they have the potential to become paralyzing too. There's definitely a danger in overthinking things. I think the book is great reading material with some excelent info on what makes a good lyric, and I certainly recommend it for that reason. However, I think one should judge for themselves whether or not it's necessary to do the exercises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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