Members mrelusive Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 I played an Iommi signature model the other day (granted it was the epiphone, not the expensive one) and LOVED the tone... I need a new axe and thought about just buying a solid SG, like a $600 faded sg or something, and tossing some Iommi pickups in there. Would i be better off with somethin else? are there different pickups in the epiphones that the 2 grand versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adambomb Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Ive heard that they are noisy and hard to dial in, but you seem to like them, so anyway, yes they do use the same pickup in both models. A real gibson with those pickups would be killer. You would just have to try a bunch of them first cuz they vary sonically (sg's) like you wouldn't believe.way more variance than Les Pauls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rindgecore Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 I find it really hard to believe those pickups are worth the money (like most Gibson products). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 I had one for quite a while. You can nail Iommi's sound with them, and they clean up ok with the voulme knob. But they don't do much else..... That being said, they do nail Iommi's sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members antiochband Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Doesn't Seymour Duncan make a blade-style Iommie sig pickup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rindgecore Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Doesn't Seymour Duncan make a blade-style Iommie sig pickup? Yeah, Duncan offers it as a custom model. But Iommi doesn't use it (maybe he used to?) but Scott Ian does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members antiochband Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Yeah, Duncan offers it as a custom model. But Iommi doesn't use it (maybe he used to?) but Scott Ian does. Kevin Bond's (Superjoint Ritual) Jackson signature model has one Iommi pickup in the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted August 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 coulda been a fluke, i guess... i just really loved the tone i got. sat in the damn chair like an idiot for what seemed 20 minutes straight. I'm just a big fan of thickness in my tone. I do a lotta heavy, big chord type stuff and that seemed to work really well. But the last thing i wanna do is be accused of coppin someone elses tone... And at like $150+ per pickup.... i don't know. Would i be better off just tryin out SGs til i found one that felt good? or do they vary too much to just buy em and switch the pickups? i suppose i could search for a cheaper (or more versatile) alternative to iommis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Norton666 Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Kevin Bond's (Superjoint Ritual) Jackson signature model has one Iommi pickup in the bridge. Kevin plays SG standards now. He is a fulltime slinger in Artimus Pyledriver now as well. Hell of a guy and hell of a tone as well. Hes running a 1974 50W Marshall. Very different than his Superjoint days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 Yeah, Duncan offers it as a custom model. But Iommi doesn't use it (maybe he used to?) but Scott Ian does. It was used in the Patrick Eggle Iommy sig. guitar. From what I gather, they are pretty sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtyChains Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 It's only good for the bridge IMO. I like the 500T better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted August 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 maybe i'm lettin the childhood idol thing run a lil too far, i was almost tempted to bust out the main riff from iron man in that store... I mean, it ain't that dimebag darrel humbucker guitar center always tries to shove in my bag, but i'm heavily debating the cost here. It could be an investment, but it could be bigtime buyers remorse as well... I play big chord style stuff, not usually fast, but not super slow and stonery. Like somewhere between Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream album and Thrice's Artist in the Ambulance, but with more of an emphasis on songwriting. I always cite Pist.On's second album $ellout as a refernce, but no one ever knows that one. Can i still get doomy and thick with a JB/jazz or JB/59 combo in a mahogany body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtyChains Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 If you want Smashing Pumpkins get a cheap Strat. I like the 59/JB or Custom combo. Go EMGs with a 60 in the neck and an 81 in the bridge on mahogany guitars. 85 in the bridge on ash and adler. Many will argue the 85 in mahogany too, but to me it is too bassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted August 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 man, i always forget that billy corgan mainly used single coils, the fatness must come from the combo of him and james... I really don't like single coils, and i've only played a couple of active-pickup-guitars that felt right... maybe i should start saying "somewhere between newer thrice and older helmet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LarriveeFan Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 I played an Iommi signature model the other day (granted it was the epiphone, not the expensive one) and LOVED the tone... I need a new axe and thought about just buying a solid SG, like a $600 faded sg or something, and tossing some Iommi pickups in there. Would i be better off with somethin else? are there different pickups in the epiphones that the 2 grand versions? I'm told these are the same pups as the Gibson versions,, I bought the Iommi Epiphone off ebay and love the guitar!! Its a smokin guitar!! Personally, I love the pups,, they clean up nice when rolled back,, they are expensive if you buy them outright though,, if you gotta have a Gibson,, it would be a costly guitar to add the pups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rindgecore Posted August 30, 2007 Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 If you're going to spend over a hundred dollars on a humbucker, there a ton of better options...Rio Grande, Bareknuckle, Adder Plus etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted August 30, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2007 If you're going to spend over a hundred dollars on a humbucker, there a ton of better options...Rio Grande, Bareknuckle, Adder Plus etc. for the same tone? please specify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted August 31, 2007 Members Share Posted August 31, 2007 can it do clean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soulcrusher_X Posted August 31, 2007 Members Share Posted August 31, 2007 I like the Iommis. They have a lot of top end grind and harmonics, so be prepared for it to "seem" very bright. It's like he built in that old-school "fuzz" right into the pickup. It has thick mids and a big bottom end that's a bit loose, but not flabby. They are pretty resistant to squaling and feedback, so you can crank the gain like a mofo and if you have a pair of them in your guitar, and use the middle position on the pickup selector, they have a cool 'vowel' tone, like you left your wah pedal on in a middle spot. Oh, and they kill for drop tunings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted September 1, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2007 can it do clean? good question! well....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soulcrusher_X Posted September 1, 2007 Members Share Posted September 1, 2007 good question!well....? I thought they did pretty well for cleans, not the most sparkling single-coil cleans, but pretty damn good IMO. The magnet structure is pretty neat. It has both a AlNiCo 2 mag and Ceramic mag, so it's pretty tight, but still has a 'sweetness' in the highs and mids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lefchr Posted September 1, 2007 Members Share Posted September 1, 2007 man, i always forget that billy corgan mainly used single coils, the fatness must come from the combo of him and james... I really don't like single coils, and i've only played a couple of active-pickup-guitars that felt right...maybe i should start saying "somewhere between newer thrice and older helmet" They pick ups Billy used weren't really true singles though. plus on the album he had a {censored}load of extra guitars to thicken it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted September 1, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2007 Would it work to just buy one for the bridge and get something else in the neck or would it make more sense to just buy two Iommi pickups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted September 1, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2007 what would be a good solid guitar to put these in? am i better off stickin with the whole Iommi sig guitar or can i get any G400 and toss em in? Is there a better-constructed guitar to put these in, like maybe a faded sg special or somethin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bullhead Posted September 1, 2007 Members Share Posted September 1, 2007 They pick ups Billy used weren't really true singles though. plus on the album he had a {censored}load of extra guitars to thicken it up. the main guitar he used was always a Strat with ust about the whole rainbow of Lace Sensors in it, i want to say he had a Blue in the bridge. but on the record he did have things like a bunch of amps and a bunch of fuzz pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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