Members Taylorman Posted April 4, 2003 Members Share Posted April 4, 2003 I take McCartney, hands down. His songs just move me like few other musicians' ever have. Great musician, funky bass player, superb melodical sense, cool lyricsist; I love the whole Macca package. I'm not putting down Lennon or anything, I just prefer Paul. Your pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thelonius74 Posted April 4, 2003 Members Share Posted April 4, 2003 McCartney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jt9057 Posted April 4, 2003 Members Share Posted April 4, 2003 Paul is a better songwriter. I heard stories that he'd come into the studio with his songs already arranged in his head. Lennon would come in with at the very most only his part. Ringo, George and Paul usually made up their own parts on John's songs. I remember reading an interview with Mitchell Froom who co-produced a couple tracks on McCartney's Flowers In The Dirt album. He said that Paul was the most natural musician you would ever see. He'd pick up any instrument and then instantaniously came up with a great sounding riff or melodic passage. He also said Paul was one of the easiest bassists to record because he knows how to control his dynamics and consistently has great tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members buckshot_plevna Posted April 4, 2003 Members Share Posted April 4, 2003 I'm not too sure on this, but an interseting thing to investigate would be to see who had more #1's... I'm not extremely familiar which who wrote what but Imagine has to be one of, if not, the best Beatles song... BP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jesus, etc. Posted April 5, 2003 Members Share Posted April 5, 2003 lennon, hands down. he had more soul, and his songs moved me. especially solo. lennon made more with less per se. he's got a rock n roll heart and soul that's truly shown in songs like imagine. lennon. oh. and his voice is more appealing to me. mccartney just sounds bland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reubenfar Posted April 5, 2003 Members Share Posted April 5, 2003 paul mccartney wrote some incredible melodies, but I'm more of a john lennon fan. I think his combination of melodic craft and cynical & witty lyrics were very inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taylorman Posted April 5, 2003 Author Members Share Posted April 5, 2003 Originally posted by jesus, etc. mccartney just sounds bland. You crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClusterOne Posted April 5, 2003 Members Share Posted April 5, 2003 Imagine isn't a beatles song, it's off John Lennon's first Solo album. Lennon's was the better lyricist, hands down. McCartney could eat lead and crap melody. And he is one hell of an arranger, hence the Abbey Road medley. Overall I prefer Lennon though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brain of J Posted April 5, 2003 Members Share Posted April 5, 2003 I prefer Lennon. He's not as technical as Paul, and that may be what makes me like him better. But just overall I like his songs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jesus, etc. Posted April 6, 2003 Members Share Posted April 6, 2003 Originally posted by Sherinian gonnabe You crack me up. i can have an opinion, can't i? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noblues=notrock Posted April 6, 2003 Members Share Posted April 6, 2003 depends on your definition of songwriting: If you're just talking lyrics, then I think Lennon. But in terms of overall song arrangement and creativity, McCartney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taylorman Posted April 7, 2003 Author Members Share Posted April 7, 2003 Originally posted by jesus, etc. i can have an opinion, can't i? I'm not a troll who thinks everything I say goes. Of course you're entitled to an opinion; it's a discussion forum. But you didn't say 'IMO' or 'I feel'; you categorically stated, 'McCartney just sounds bland.' That I object to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taylorman Posted April 7, 2003 Author Members Share Posted April 7, 2003 Oh, and I hate when people say Paul wasn't much of a lyricist. The standard conception is 'Paul wrote great music, John wrote great words.' But Paul did write some great lyrics, just as John wrote some great songs. Also, Imagine wasn't a Beatles song. Anyone got any opinions about their solo work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jsmineer Posted April 8, 2003 Members Share Posted April 8, 2003 Saying Paul only wrote great melodies and John wrote great lyrics is just plain dumb. You could say either about both of them. They both had their moments of clever lyrics and melodies. Put it this way, Paul wrote about 75% of Sgt. Pepper. That should tell you something. I really dig Lennon's music with the Beatles up to Magical Mystery Tour. After that, he seemed too drugged out and lazy to produce much worth listening to. He had a few shining moments, but compared to Rubber Soul and Revolver his work overall didn't hold up to that time period. His solo stuff I couldn't really care less for. On the other had, say what you will about McCartney, but he still produces some good songs. Everyone says his stuff now is crap, but how can you expect him to live up to the Beatles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffdaddy Posted April 8, 2003 Members Share Posted April 8, 2003 Technically this is out of the scope of the question, but Harrison, both before and after the Beatles, right up to 1986 (I Got My Mind Set on You and the Travelling Wilburys). He could acheive the magic balance that Paul and John got with eachother all by himself. His lyrics could be biting satire or beautiful poetry, and his sense of orchestration is beautiful. Even if he did use a ukulele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zinzin Posted April 8, 2003 Members Share Posted April 8, 2003 they both wrote some of the best music around, separately and together. so its really hard to decide which one IS THE BEST.together they were absolutely THE BEST.for a single preference, i think they are to different to choose one ... but dont forget bout harrison, after the beatles split he proved that, if they let him, he could have contributed much more to the beatles music. he's a good songwriter, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grubgoat Posted April 8, 2003 Members Share Posted April 8, 2003 I wonder what the end reult would have been if they HAD let Harrison have more of a contribution. One song can completely change an album- imagine 3 MORE Harrison songs on Abbey Road, for instance... Or Lennon-Harrison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zinzin Posted April 8, 2003 Members Share Posted April 8, 2003 Originally posted by Grubgoat ... Or Lennon-Harrison... yeah: Lennon-Harrison!! that would have been nice!are there songs from this couple? don't think so, am i right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JOLLY Posted April 8, 2003 Members Share Posted April 8, 2003 McCartney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jthsmak Posted April 9, 2003 Members Share Posted April 9, 2003 Originally posted by zinzin yeah: Lennon-Harrison!!that would have been nice!are there songs from this couple? don't think so, am i right? Taxman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zinzin Posted April 9, 2003 Members Share Posted April 9, 2003 Originally posted by jthsmak Taxman the credits in the booklet say: Harrison and i have an article: TAXMAN (90% Harrison, 10% Lennon)Lennon: " I threw in a few one-liners to help the song along."Harrison: " I was pleased to have Paul play that bit on Taxman (1:13, 5 bars, guitarsolo). If you notice, he did like a little indian bit on it for me. With certain things like that, in those days, for me to be alloud to do one song on the album, it was like "Great!". I dont care who plays on it. This is my big chance." so, its harrisons song with help from paul and john, but not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vatican Posted April 14, 2003 Members Share Posted April 14, 2003 Originally posted by ClusterOne Lennon's was the better lyricist, hands down. McCartney could eat lead and crap melody. And he is one hell of an arranger, hence the Abbey Road medley.Overall I prefer Lennon though! I agree with all that. McCartney has a sixth sense for harmony, and he sings so beautifully. Lennon was more confrontational, and his song structures and lyrics reflected that. I definitely prefer Lennon's solo career, even the dead spots such as Menlove Ave are interesting in a way, but others such as Plastic Ono Band, Imagine, and Mind Games have a lot going for them. There's an emotional quality to his music and to his singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vatican Posted April 14, 2003 Members Share Posted April 14, 2003 Originally posted by zinzin the credits in the booklet say: Harrisonand i have an article:TAXMAN (90% Harrison, 10% Lennon)Lennon: " I threw in a few one-liners to help the song along."Harrison: " I was pleased to have Paul play that bit on Taxman (1:13, 5 bars, guitarsolo). If you notice, he did like a little indian bit on it for me. With certain things like that, in those days, for me to be alloud to do one song on the album, it was like "Great!". I dont care who plays on it. This is my big chance."so, its harrisons song with help from paul and john, but not much. I love Taxman, it's a great way to kick off the album. My favorite song on there though, actually, there's two: the John Lennon songs She Said and Tomorrow Never Knows. I was listening to a bootleg of Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison (very drunk) playing Tomorrow Never Knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rachel Sampson Posted April 15, 2003 Members Share Posted April 15, 2003 oh my god lennon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jesus, etc. Posted April 15, 2003 Members Share Posted April 15, 2003 Originally posted by Sherinian gonnabe I'm not a troll who thinks everything I say goes. Of course you're entitled to an opinion; it's a discussion forum. But you didn't say 'IMO' or 'I feel'; you categorically states 'McCartney just sounds bland.' That I object to. "oh. and his voice is more appealing to me. mccartney just sounds bland. (to me)" happy? i thought it was implied in context and that most this thread is opinion anyways. sorry to confuse you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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