Members bmast160 Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 I have a crate v3112 with the stock celestion 70/80 in it...i was thinking about changing it out...possibly to a Celestion G-12M Greenback...wondering what you think? comparisions of the sounds of the a 70/80 and a greenback? any other speaker suggestions? i know the new ones come with tone tubby speakers and i was considering that too but i think it might be a little too smooth sounding...i just use the amp on the overdrive setting and use another amp for clean. what you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members GCDEF Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 I don't think I'd put a 25 watt speaker in that amp. It would sound better though. 70/80 is pretty harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eyeball987 Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 There is youtube vid with a greenie in a Palomino V32 and it rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members LesPaulCustom79 Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 I have a crate v3112 with the stock celestion 70/80 in it...i was thinking about changing it out...possibly to a Celestion G-12M Greenback... wondering what you think? comparisions of the sounds of the a 70/80 and a greenback? any other speaker suggestions? i know the new ones come with tone tubby speakers and i was considering that too but i think it might be a little too smooth sounding...i just use the amp on the overdrive setting and use another amp for clean. what you think? It's a 30 watt class A amp, so as long as you don't crank it all the way a 25 watt Greenback should be good, maybe a Vintage 30, 60 watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_J-Train Posted April 15, 2008 Members Share Posted April 15, 2008 go with a WGS veteran 30, better than a celestion v30, cheaper, and can handle your amps output if you crank it to 11. werd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Herald of Light Posted April 16, 2008 Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 It's a 30 watt class A amp, so as long as you don't crank it all the way a 25 watt Greenback should be good, maybe a Vintage 30, 60 watt. 1) I really doubt it's actually class A. Doesn't really matter, anyways. 2) If you crank it, it's going to be OVER 30 watts. There's no telling when it's actually putting out 25. The speaker should be able to take more, but who is to say how much? I have heard of people blowing the regular Greenbacks. If you ever turn the amp way up, I wouldn't risk it. 3) Something with higher power handling would be ideal, but please don't put a Vintage 30 in that amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted April 16, 2008 Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 man!!! I play in a LOUD cover band, and I could not imagine being in a situation where I'd run my 30 watt combo full bore???? Thats my clean tone, I use my 50 watt Plexi stack or my Quick Rod for dirt most of the night, but I begin the night with my Laney VC-30 combo for some of the cleaner stuff, and pump some pedals into it for dirtier stuff for the first set or so. 30 watts of tube amp is loud as hell, who runs em full out??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted April 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 There is youtube vid with a greenie in a Palomino V32 and it rocks. yeah...i saw that.i think the greenback will sound great in it but i dont want to mess with a different wattage...what specs should the speaker that i put in there be? any recommendations on something similar to a greenback that i could put in? does celestion make something similar that i could put in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted April 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 3) Something with higher power handling would be ideal, but please don't put a Vintage 30 in that amp. what would you recommend instead....i saw that warehouse speakers has "the reaper" which is supposed to be a 30watt version of a greenback(apparently it has a little more bass and doesnt break up as much?..which might be bad since i only use the amp on the overdrive channel)...what about the celestion G12H:freak: i think the greenback will sound great in it but i dont want to mess with a different wattage... any recommendations on something similar to a greenback that i could put in? does celestion make something similar that i could put in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericwylde Posted April 16, 2008 Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 a 30w will never screw up a good 25w speakera low wattage speaker will sound louder and meaner in this amp than 60+ watts speakers breaking up a greenback only makes it sound better and clearer, not any harsher or thinnerthe vintage 30 only sounds good and open to my ears when it gets broken up and it requires an extremely loud volume, so i wouldn't recommend it for this ampthe g12h30 is a great speaker too, so i believe this reaper can do a great job too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted April 16, 2008 Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 a 30w will never screw up a good 25w speaker a low wattage speaker will sound louder and meaner in this amp than 60+ watts speakers breaking up a greenback only makes it sound better and clearer, not any harsher or thinner the vintage 30 only sounds good and open to my ears when it gets broken up and it requires an extremely loud volume, so i wouldn't recommend it for this amp the g12h30 is a great speaker too, so i believe this reaper can do a great job too It's easy to make bold claims like that when it's not your equipment on the line. As to the claim that a low wattage speaker will sound louder and meaner than a 60 watt speaker, the only possible response is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted April 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 k. ive narrowed it down to putting this or a similar speaker in a crate v3112. what are your comparisons between the celestion classic g12h30, the celestion heritage g12h30 and warehouse speakers' reaper...or another similar speaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CaseyMAN Posted April 16, 2008 Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 Get a WGS Green Beret if your scarred to blow a $100+ speaker when the Green Beret is only $40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Argh! Zombies! Posted April 16, 2008 Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 i think the greenback will sound great in it but i dont want to mess with a different wattage... any recommendations on something similar to a greenback that i could put in? does celestion make something similar that i could put in? Just to respond to this, the Splawn/Eminence Small Block 25 is based on the Greenback (hence "25") but is actually rated at 55 watts AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted April 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 F$^@ it. im just gonna put in the tone tubby 40/40 that the new ones come with...i know itll work well with that. thanks tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Herald of Light Posted April 16, 2008 Members Share Posted April 16, 2008 30 watts of tube amp is loud as hell, who runs em full out??? I do it all the time. X watts of like any amp is "loud as hell" when it's turned up some. It doesn't matter if it's 5 watts or 100 watts. That's the farkin point of guitar amplifiers. After that, it's just various types and amounts of power amp overdrive. Have you ever even tried turning it up all the way? Most amps, regardless of their power rating, stop getting any louder at about halfway, if not before. It's not like you're going to instantly implode your ear drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericwylde Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 As to the claim that a low wattage speaker will sound louder and meaner than a 60 watt speaker, the only possible response is his amp is 30w a low watt speaker will OBVIOUSLY be pushed a lot harder than a high watt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hanglow Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 The vintage 30 is a bit more sensitive than the greenback, so it should be a bit louder, all things being equal. I think the greenback would be ok as far as power is concerned. If you blow it up, don't blame me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric9323 Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 Why don't you just get a 2x12 cab with greenbacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members again with this Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 My favorite cab has 25 watt Celestion greenback reissues. Not really sure what letter... Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 his amp is 30w a low watt speaker will OBVIOUSLY be pushed a lot harder than a high watt Pushed harder is not the same as "louder and meaner". As it would be pushed to the limits of its power handling capacity and as a greenback isn't that efficient compared to some other speakers, it would likely be noticeably less loud than a more efficient, higher wattage speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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