Members Shenaniganizer Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 Who uses either of 'em? How do they sound? From blues to metal is the type of ground I'd like to cover. Let's say two of each would be going into 2x12s, convertible back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Keebz Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 I just bought a Wizard and I hate it. They're very very harsh...all upper midrange and treble. No Low end beef at all! This is by far the worst speaker I've ever had...even worse than V-30's, and I despise V-30's!! but At least V-30's have some ass end on it. That being said...Eminence Legends are the best speakers I've ever played! Very well balanced! I tried it in a 2x12, and in a 1x12...in the 1x12 it sounded like a pile of shit, so I thought it would sound better paired with another speaker in the 2x12...boy was I wrong! It still sounds like shit! I replaced the Wizard with a Legend and all is right in the world again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted April 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 Do you think that may have something to do with not being broken in, though? I listened to a few youtube clips by a guy playing a 2x12 with Wizards in it, and he was playing mostly clean jazzy/bluesy stuff, sounded good in that range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Keebz Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 We'll see...I sold some good speakers in order to buy this one, so I'm pretty disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted April 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 I know nothing about breaking in speakers, but, if it's brand new, I don't think any speakers sound amazing without being broken in at that stage, right? btw, I'm going to PM you sometime and attempt to discuss with you about that Krank Rev Jr. Pro 50. I'm interested in those heads, and would like to know more about it. ANYWAY, anyone else had any experience with either of these speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bankboy Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 Wizards and the speakers they are modeled after the G12H30 sound incredibly bad when they are new, but after they break in, they can sound pretty sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timjtitus Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 when i compare the guv to a vet 30 it has alot less mids, more treble but still a little darker. more compressed, more low end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeid2000 Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 My housemate has a Wizard in a 2x12, it's awful. I have the same beef as the guy above. It's very toppy and has no beef. DO NOT WANT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 I have a pair of Governors but they didn't mix super well with my JSX. haven't tried them with my Fireball yet though. Good V30ish sounding speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Awesome Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 I just bought a Wizard and I hate it. They're very very harsh...all upper midrange and treble. No Low end beef at all! This is by far the worst speaker I've ever had...even worse than V-30's, and I despise V-30's!! but At least V-30's have some ass end on it. That being said...Eminence Legends are the best speakers I've ever played! Very well balanced! I tried it in a 2x12, and in a 1x12...in the 1x12 it sounded like a pile of shit, so I thought it would sound better paired with another speaker in the 2x12...boy was I wrong! It still sounds like shit! I replaced the Wizard with a Legend and all is right in the world again. This guy is high. The wizards are like a Celestion Anniversary, lots of extended treble with solid lows, if anything they lack a touch of midrange. Put a Governor with a Wizard and you will have the Eminence equivelent of the Vintage 30 and Anniversary. Eminence has a website full of comparisons, go there and decide for yourself. The Wizards are bright and they are also very efficient 103db per watt. Another way to go is two Governors, this sounds nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 This guy is high. The wizards are like a Celestion Anniversary, lots of extended treble with solid lows, if anything they lack a touch of midrange. Put a Governor with a Wizard and you will have the Eminence equivelent of the Vintage 30 and Anniversary. Eminence has a website full of comparisons, go there and decide for yourself.The Wizards are bright and they are also very efficient 103db per watt. Another way to go is two Governors, this sounds nice... +1 ... there is plenty of low end on wizards, they have to be used in a proper sealed cab to sound good too. The ones I tired sounded {censored}ing awesome with a 5150 in a basson cab.. -D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chemh0ser Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 I've used my nitro through a splawn 2x12 with a gov and a wizard and it sounded pretty damn good, not as good as the small block 25s though. You really have to break them in and it is a matter of personal taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members panther_king Posted April 14, 2009 Members Share Posted April 14, 2009 I hear a Gov+Man o' War sounds solid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted April 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 Well, the forumite I may buy these from will only sell them in pairs (two Wizards, two Governors), and I may only end up with a 2x12 for now, so I have to decide which of the two the better option will be.How 'long' does breaking in take?I will check out Eminence's site soon, I was just seeing if anyone's had any experience with these particular speakers, to get more of a personal point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted April 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 Quick bump, the thread got lost from the first page so soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_bleeding Posted April 15, 2009 Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 if voltaire was here, she would tell ya. I believe she has a swampthing/governor combo. Might have had a wizard too. She has a lot of random {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted April 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 15, 2009 paging Dr. Voltaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted April 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 16, 2009 Anyone else? :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted May 3, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 3, 2009 hey.. bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Keebz Posted May 3, 2009 Members Share Posted May 3, 2009 I sold the one I had...it never worked out for me. I tried breaking it in...still sounded the same to me, kinda nasally with no lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted May 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2009 I think the Wizards may work out for me. I'm just looking for any experience from you guys.I've watched youtube vids of a guy playing with two Wizards in a 2x12 - played some blues/jazzy stuff, and some driven stuff, but nothing metal-like. Then I watched other clips of a guy playing some high-gain with the Wizards in a Bogner 2x12 -didn't sound too bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Michael Satterlee Posted December 22, 2019 Members Share Posted December 22, 2019 I'm a drummer, but,have a studio and collect Vintage Tube amps. Came upon a Laney TT20 with a Wizard Red Coat for $220.00 Needless to say it's a stellar amp. I use it on all my Personal recordings and I have 26+ amps to choose from, just Someone playing a Les Paul straight into the amp, miced with a Sennheiser 609 up close and a MD421 in the room. Another Sleeper Amp is the (Don't Laugh) Crate GT 50 Stealth- All USA made 4 6V6s, 3 12ax7s and 3 possible channel combos. If you're a Metal or Marshall guy, check one of these out, BUT, be sure to 86 the JIVE ASS tubes that CRATE supplied. I only use Eastern European Tubes, because they NEVER stopped using Tube Technology, never have QC problems. Just MY 2 cents, Later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Warhorse Posted December 26, 2019 Members Share Posted December 26, 2019 I have Eminence Phat's in my Budda 4x12 they sound really good, they have a growl in the mids that I love and smooth highs and balanced lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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