Members New Trail Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think I've narrowed my speaker search down to these two Eminence speakers. Which should I get? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NinjaRaf Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 What kind of tone are you looking for? I havent played a texas heat, but the swamp thang is a very dark sounding speaker. Once you get volume behind it, it sounds HUGEHUGEHUGE though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted August 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 What kind of tone are you looking for? I havent played a texas heat, but the swamp thang is a very dark sounding speaker. Once you get volume behind it, it sounds HUGEHUGEHUGE though. I'm buying two new speakers to put in an old '60's Fender 2x12 cabinet and run it with a Marshall 100 watt head. I love the sound of a Fender Twin, which are either Eminence speakers or Jensen, but I also like the sound of a Marshall half stack, which is Celestions. I use pedals so I want speakers that can handle a lot of clean power without distorting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RupertB Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 What amp?Clean, dirty, in-between, or all?Looking for more volume/headroom?Early, mid, or late speaker breakup?Using for low (home), medium (practice, small gig), or high volume (large venue) application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NinjaRaf Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 Swamp thang would handle that pretty well...they are very high wattage speakers. Have you thought about eminence legends or delta pros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Keebz Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 The Swamp Thang wasn't what I expected at first but it's really not a bad speaker! Really thick on the lows and rolled off in the highs...similar to a Eminence V12 Speaker. The Texas Heat has a Highs and Lows, that's it...the lack of midrange make it sound very raspy. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 I got a pair of 16ohm Swamps Id sell you for 120 + shipping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NinjaRaf Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 I got a pair of 16ohm Swamps Id sell you for 120 + shipping Great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted August 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 Wow, it sounds like NEITHER of those speakers would be what I need. Like I said, I want a LOT of power to run in a 2x12 Fender cabinet using a Marshall 100 watt head, and I use pedals for OD and distortion. I prefer to buy from Eminence since they are still made in the U.S.A. What would be a high power Eminence speaker that sounds like a Jensen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Toshiro Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 You've looked at this already, right:http://eminence.com/pdf/tone_guide.pdf ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted August 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 You've looked at this already, right:http://eminence.com/pdf/tone_guide.pdf?? Yes. While it's somewhat helpful, it's really hard to figure out sound comparisons from a chart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 Wow, it sounds like NEITHER of those speakers would be what I need. Like I said, I want a LOT of power to run in a 2x12 Fender cabinet using a Marshall 100 watt head, and I use pedals for OD and distortion. I prefer to buy from Eminence since they are still made in the U.S.A. What would be a high power Eminence speaker that sounds like a Jensen? Dude. I ran a 2x12 with these swamps because Im not a fan of speaker break up. Ive run these very speakers with My splawn, 2 Marshals, 3 Engls, 2 Carvins, 4 Peaveys to name a few. All the amps sounded great through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Toshiro Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 Yes. While it's somewhat helpful, it's really hard to figure out sound comparisons from a chart! Hmmm, most of their descriptions were accurate to the models I've heard or played through. Are you looking for something bright? Dark? They make a lot of high power, no breakup speakers, so the EQ is going to be pretty important. You might want to think about getting a mixed pair, if you're looking for both a twin type sound and a Celestion-style tone in the same cab. One Red Coat, one Patriot. (Just don't get the Tonker. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 The texas heats are super raspy sounding, TONS of sizzle. Not necessarily a bad speaker though, if you're using it with the right head. Dude, just go with Vintage 30s if you can get over the fact that they arn't US made. I know it's all a matter of opinion, but damn, they are easily the best speakers I can think of for hard rock or metal tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heath Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 I have a cab that has one of each and it sounds great. The swamp has more mids but less highs. Both have lots of low end. I dont find the texas heat as raspy as many of the celestion speakers I have owned over the years though. i think either one or both would work well. The swamp thang seems to be a better overall speaker, but I really like both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 swamp thangs are huge sounding. swamp thang + V30 is the best combo i've ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 my Emi weigh in: I had the Lil Texas (neo) - hated it. sizzley, nasty.Swamp thang = awesome. BIG bassy darkWizard = loudest speaker I've ever heard. Kind of loud in the mids. Just like an H30P-50E - awesome. Red White and Blues = HUGE surprise. They sound solid, smooth, loud, and killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Keebz Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 my Emi weigh in: I had the Lil Texas (neo) - hated it. sizzley, nasty. Swamp thang = awesome. BIG bassy dark Wizard = loudest speaker I've ever heard. Kind of loud in the mids. Just like an H30 P-50E - awesome. Red White and Blues = HUGE surprise. They sound solid, smooth, loud, and killer. Me wantz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 Texas Heat are thick and brighter, Swamp are scooped out. Bassy and Highs, not near the mids of a V30. Swamps are higher power speakers so you really have to crank them to get the goods imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flyingrhoads Posted August 19, 2010 Members Share Posted August 19, 2010 If you want a lot of power/volume then maybe try EVM's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members III Posted August 20, 2010 Members Share Posted August 20, 2010 If you wanna stick with Eminence and want a mix of American and British style speakers in an old Fender 2x12 that'll handle a 100W Marshall at any volume... you could mix a Swamp Thang or a Red, White and Blue with a Man O War. I've used this set up for a couple years now... works good for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carvinlegacy99 Posted August 20, 2010 Members Share Posted August 20, 2010 The correct answer is The Governor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted August 20, 2010 Members Share Posted August 20, 2010 The correct answer is The Governor. not a bad speaker, but wow did it break up early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted August 21, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2010 I totally have no idea now what to get. Why doesn't someone publish which Eminence speakers are copies of which other speakers? That would help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members epoirier Posted October 30, 2010 Members Share Posted October 30, 2010 hey interesting thread, so did you made your choice? I would do a mix Texas Heat/Swamp Thang if I was you. I presently have a pair of Wizard 16 in a Sunn 1969 2x12 open-back cab and it can give you the power amp break-up of a pair of JJ KT-88 from a 1969 Sunn Solarus at 7-8...115dB! I use dirt pedal instead to use my 3 heads around 3-4 instead or I won't ear the drum...haha! even at high volume the high stays smooth because a Sunn/Fender amp can get pretty bright for my taste! I'm willing to get an Avatar G212H 2x12 close-back in black tolex/fender cloth with a pair of Swamp Thang 16 or Texas Heat 16 or a mix of the 2 to blend some more low end punch with the the pair of Wizard 16...and fit with the Sunn look. Swamp Thang is for pure low end punch or clean, Texas Heat/Wizard have more color to it and are truly a V30 killer for 1/2 the price imo. and I'm into black, doom and sludge metal! loud is the only way I play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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