Members diocide Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 IIRC the ritual that Theon goes through on the show is how the Ironmen have been doing it for years. In the book, Damphair asks Theon if he's going to come to him for drowning to which he replies that he was already drowned when he was a boy. Damphair gives him {censored} about it and says something like "pouring water over your head is not the same thing."I got the feeling that Damphair himself was trying to reinstitute an old ritual from long ago and that most Ironborn simply have water poured over them. I also got the feeling that the Greyjoys are the fundamentalists of the Iron Islands. I guess that's what I'm remembering. Either way, I thought that was an awesome chapter, and the visual in my head was built up, and then dashed. I was sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnpace2 Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 How did you know all that? Is that in one of the books and I just forgot about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OceansBetweenUs Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 My "research" came from my buddy on facebook bitching about Theon's "baptism" and how it cheaped out. He wasn't online, so I looked into it. I thought it was cool, but then read how it was conceived, and agreed...they did cheap out.I'm watching the show because it's a great story line, has great acting, and is visually stunning. I take comfort in the fact that it is nigh impossible for a visual medium (or at least one worth a damn) to spend an inordinate amount of time focusing on the genealogy of a stable-boy that said two words, or explain the intricacies of some dead language of a tree like species. You would be pleasantly surprised. Their is very little time spent on genealogy (just lots of hints if you pay attention to put all of it together) and almost no time establishing fantasy languages, just a few random words thrown about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OceansBetweenUs Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 How did you know all that? Is that in one of the books and I just forgot about it? All of this is in the books, spread out amongst flashbacks. It's not all in order and thrown at the reader. Sublte hints, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnpace2 Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 I did pick up on that one - it's kinda sweet haha - Manderly DEFINITELY is a secret badass that plays the 'game' well in the later books. Great addition to the story line.All of this is in the books, spread out amongst flashbacks. It's not all in order and thrown at the reader. Sublte hints, bro. Damn, my crappy attention span strikes again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members duncan Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 You would be pleasantly surprised. Their is very little time spent on genealogy (just lots of hints if you pay attention to put all of it together) and almost no time establishing fantasy languages, just a few random words thrown about. It's not just the exercises in genealogy detail that bother me. It's the endless stream of minor/insignificant back-stories surrounding every detail of everything. I don't give a {censored} nor do I need to know about the history of the Valeryn (sp) people, their language, and/or their culture. I just need to know that Valeryn steel is awesome, expensive, and rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OceansBetweenUs Posted April 20, 2012 Members Share Posted April 20, 2012 It's not just the exercises in genealogy detail that bother me. It's the endless stream of minor/insignificant back-stories surrounding every detail of everything. I don't give a {censored} nor do I need to know about the history of the Valeryn (sp) people, their language, and/or their culture. I just need to know that Valeryn steel is awesome, expensive, and rare. Fortunately for you, that's about as much detail that they go into in the story to be honest. There may be a few paragraphs spread out throughout the book saying, "They did something bad that makes Valroan uninhabittable now. And it's hard to get to." But thats about as much as he does right about that. The worst part of the series is the endless chapters of Danaerys playing war with slaves and thinking about getting laid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 21, 2012 Members Share Posted April 21, 2012 The worst part of the series is the endless chapters of Danaerys playing war with slaves and thinking about getting laid. holy {censored}... I couldn't agree more.... her chapters are just boring as {censored}.... except when the dragons {censored} {censored} up... other than that they are just lame IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scud133 Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 well after the end of tonight's episode, i think i've pretty much seen everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GnR102385 Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 THAT IS NOT WHAT LITTLEFINGER IS SUPPOSED TO DO YOU {censored}S!!!! Him begging Cat to give him another chance was a complete {censored}up by the writers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members duncan Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 So... A baby smoke demon thing, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 ohhhh....sounds like lastnight's episode was good.... sucks I have to wait till I get off work to see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BA.Barcolounger Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Wun Wun the giant will go ape{censored} and keep him from getting a fatal wound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 All of this is in the books, spread out amongst flashbacks. It's not all in order and thrown at the reader. Sublte hints, bro. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Wun Wun the giant will go ape{censored} and keep him from getting a fatal wound. that's another possiblity.... he has lots of options... IMO Jon Snow has a large roll to play, so I can't see him getting killed out... then again I don't think anyone saw Ned being killed off either, so who knows really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 that's another possiblity.... he has lots of options... IMO Jon Snow has a large roll to play, so I can't see him getting killed out... then again I don't think anyone saw Ned being killed off either, so who knows really... My thing about Jon being killed off.....If hes really dead..Then what is/was the whole point in any story behind the wall if there are no key players left there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I hear yuh... and all of that could be a set up for Stannis to take the wall and defend the realm from the Wights, so who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I don't know if Stannis is going to be able to defend anything with his army in the condition that they are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I saw this for the first time last night. The scene with the two chicks was hot. Other than that, it seemed to be a {censored}ty show about midgets and dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marc G Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 very true.... but... who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I saw this for the first time last night. The scene with the two chicks was hot. Other than that, it seemed to be a {censored}ty show about midgets and dragons. Watch the episode prior to last night. There is a scene with two dudes...You would probably like that episode better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OceansBetweenUs Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I saw this for the first time last night. The scene with the two chicks was hot. Other than that, it seemed to be a {censored}ty show about midgets and dragons. Comin' up in here just to hate? How dare you troll the fantasy nerd thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 hey guys that read the book, {censored} off. this is for the tv series. I appreciate some of you that use the spoiler feature, but then others reply without it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Is it me...Or did they put the whole Renly getting killed and Melisandre shatting that shadow at Storms End in the wrong order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BA.Barcolounger Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Is it me...Or did they put the whole Renly getting killed and Melisandre shatting that shadow at Storms End in the wrong order? They merged them. The siege at storms end went on for months. They cut the whole thing out, and took the most interesting part (the birthing scene) and put it in the Renly storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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