Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 krav magah (sp?) or whatever aside, they do train in hand to hand combat, but not against someone with a deadly weapon. last two words of that sentence are the key here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themadscientist Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 i think we can agree on some of these points. in the timeframe though, you have to shoot where it counts. no time to {censored} around with limb shots. you miss, oops. target was moving and too small to hit. torso would have been better. you hit, no effect, {censored}. hes in threat zone now. shouldve gone torso. see what i mean? there are always different ways to handle it. the current rules of engagement handle them all as best as possible, but certainly not best case in every scenario. yeah, in most circumstances I understand why the rules are there it just seems stupid that he was even close enough to have been a threat to the officers, especially if he's all pcp'd out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chuck testa Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 I want some PCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members isvoid Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 Angel dust is far and away the worst, and most disturbing rec drug I ever tried. Trippy / potent / evil {censored}. Don't do eeeeet!!11 :freak_freak_freak: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themadscientist Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 on the other hand, what the hell was he thinking doing PCP? who wakes up and decides that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 The definition of ironic = This dude would have been better off, had he been Rodney King'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seajay Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 shooting someone in the leg will always have an effect, pcp or notIt's against training, but maybe training should be altered to include the non lethal use of a firearmdude was no doubt an idiot for doing this, but gunned down in a parking lot when there's three other cops and a dog there....sorry, won't ever think that's right nor should it behe raised the crowbar, but he wasn't moving quickly at all, the officer could have kept some distance between himself and the suspectthere were options other than getting in this face, within striking distance, and then putting him downguy was high, cops acted poorly Why? So as to not offend your delicate sensibilities? I guess it's pretty easy to second-guess a situation from the relative comfort of youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ENdtime Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 Pretty crazy the amount of bullets that cop put in him.. I agree that was a bit much.. But if he was on PCP- which I'll admit I've done, it is for sure a very aggressive and totally numb feeling.. You can take some physical abuse on that drug and not feel a thing.. So if that was the case, honestly putting that guy down like that may have been necessary.. But I think 4 or 5 shots would have been enough. Otherwise tazer to the face did nothing, I'm sure a bullet to my knee wouldn't have stopped me on pcp, certainly not that dude.. So a few bullets to the chest would prolly be the necessary force.. But that's just assumed he was on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 based on the video i agree they shouldve used their training and shot him in the leg or arm. Apparently you know nothing about police training. They are taught to NEVER shoot to maim. If you shoot, you do it to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 on the other hand, what the hell was he thinking doing PCP?who wakes up and decides that??? don't go taking someone's assumption and call it fact. i only ASSUMED he was high/on pcp.he could have very well just been mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themadscientist Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 Why? So as to not offend your delicate sensibilities?I guess it's pretty easy to second-guess a situation from the relative comfort of youtube. there's nothing delicate about taking someones life I guess it's pretty easy to be a tough guy and cheer the end of a life from youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 I guess it's pretty easy to second-guess a situation from the relative comfort of youtube. also THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES not the insulting tone, but the point that situations vary, we werent there, so this whole discussion is pointless. the shooting, especially with video evidence, will come under review and the IAB/courts will decide justifiability. not us amp dorks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themadscientist Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'm not arguing that it was an illegal action, I can see why they did it. I'm just questioning whether we need to explore other options than just gunning everyone down and the ethics for the laws themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 well when a chemical in the body can render somone impervious to face-tazer, theres really not much left "hohohoh IN THE FAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OceansBetweenUs Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'm not arguing that it was an illegal action, I can see why they did it. I'm just questioning whether we need to explore other options than just gunning everyone down and the ethics for the laws themselves I like your optimism. But its naieve. Guy shouldn't be in a public place threatening people with a deadly weapon. You do that, you die. I'm very cool with the outcome, just wish that it hadn't been so public/no children had to see it. Wait, I hate children. I'm glad they saw it and I hope they learned what NOT to do when they grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 "One officers shot the man five times, and a second officer shot the man five more times after he fell to the pavement."A bit much... we all agree????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 maybe we should experiment with 9mm elephant tranq-rounds? would they work better than the tazer? i was pretty usre tazers worked regardless of blood chemistry, but i guess not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 how many actually hit, and how many of those strays went into traffic?that carl's had a streetlight right there, wonder how many pedestrians caught a stray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 how many actually hit, and how many of those strays went into traffic?that carl's had a streetlight right there, wonder how many pedestrians caught a stray? however, this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 maybe we should experiment with 9mm elephant tranq-rounds? would they work better than the tazer? i was pretty usre tazers worked regardless of blood chemistry, but i guess not some people can handle getting tazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themadscientist Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 "One officers shot the man five times, and a second officer shot the man five more times after he fell to the pavement." A bit much... we all agree????? gotta make sure he's not around to testify whatever happened to that brown sound weapon that was being developed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 gotta make sure he's not around to testify he wouldnt be credible anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 you guys want to know a little secret? i sitll havent even watched the video, just arguing based on information gatheredn in yall's posts. trollface? but srs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 he wouldnt be credible anyway would he be... INcredible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted January 24, 2012 Members Share Posted January 24, 2012 how many actually hit, and how many of those strays went into traffic?that carl's had a streetlight right there, wonder how many pedestrians caught a stray? One bullet hit a sign. A woman was standing underneath it and was slightly injured by the debris. Thats why you dont {censored}ing empty your clip like you're in Die Hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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