Members superflyinmonke Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 The shape of the body and the top of that one are great, but I can't get behind that matching headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Carvin has always made good guitars, just have a bad selection of pickups. I have my old DC127 series from about 14 years ago. Still a very nice playing guitar. Build quality and durability is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Hardtail I've had ALOT of Carvins over the years. They're not the great deals they used to be IMHO true... I just went there and priced this out CS4SRight HandedTune-O-Matic Bridge/Stop Tailpiece 1 $1,119.00 -NMAH - Mahogany Neck & Body (Standard) $0.00 -CG - Clear Gloss Finish (Standard) $0.00 TR - Crimson Red $30.00 -CTH - Carved Top Headstock (Standard) $0.00 BPH - Black Painted Headstock $30.00 -RWF - Rosewood Fingerboard $0.00 MP - Mother Of Pearl Block Inlays $60.00 -FR - Med-Jumbo Frets .048" H .103" W (Standard) $0.00 -R12 - 12in Fretboard Radius (Standard) $0.00 S22B - S22B Bridge Pickup w/ Metal Cover to Match Hardware $10.00 -C22J - C22J Neck Pickup (Standard) $0.00 408 - Black Coils w/ Cream Bezels $5.00 VT2 - 2 Volume/2 Tone w/ Push-Pull Coil Splitters (N/A w/ Bigsby) $40.00 G - Gold Hardware $50.00 -46 - Elixir 1046E Light Gauge .010 - .046 (Standard) $0.00 GL - Gold Plated Logo $0.00 HC10 - Black Tolex Hardshell Guitar Case $69.00 Custom Shop Total: $1,413.00 Options Discount: $-100.00Sub-Total $1,313.00 which is basically a LP Studio with Gold Hardware.... vs...http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guita...FYw-Mgod-hEA3AThe Gibson is actually cheaper. With free shipping, no wait time, many dealers to choose from (even locally) and better pickups. I guess it's cool if you have unique options (but that adds to the price too), but for a standard guitar, I don't see a great deal there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wok Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Originally Posted by superflyinmonke The shape of the body and the top of that one are great, but I can't get behind that matching headstock. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 ditch the headstock flame job, maybe change the inlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Crunchtime You have to admit, this guitar is hot as mother {censored}ing can be. Want!http://www.carvinbbs.com/viewtopic.php?t=32490 It looks nice and yet maybe something like a professional bowler's sig model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 I've wanted a Carvin on numerous occasions but then, when I have the money, I always end up getting something else instead =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shine Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Would rather have a PRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 24, 2012 Members Share Posted October 24, 2012 Originally Posted by Crunchtime You have to admit, this guitar is hot as mother {censored}ing can be. Want!http://www.carvinbbs.com/viewtopic.php?t=32490 yuck. You can have mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leftyaxeman Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Originally Posted by Sheik_Yerbouti Am I the only person who buys a guitar because I like it and anticipate keeping it without giving a {censored} about "resale" value? I feel the same way. For me, once I find a nice lefty axe, I'm not selling. I could buy 3 Carvins(all custom) for the price of 1 PRS lefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Originally Posted by guitarbilly74 true... I just went there and priced this outwhich is basically a LP Studio with Gold Hardware.... vs...http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guita...FYw-Mgod-hEA3AThe Gibson is actually cheaper. With free shipping, no wait time, many dealers to choose from (even locally) and better pickups. I guess it's cool if you have unique options (but that adds to the price too), but for a standard guitar, I don't see a great deal there. A CS4 is nothing like a LP Studio. Never mind the fact that the build quality on a CS4 will be light years ahead of a run of the mill LP Studio (unless you sit and play 100 Studios looking for "the one"). The CS4 has a 25" scale length and a straight string headstock (if you go with the carved top headstock) and will feel much more like a 25" scale length PRS Singlecut than any Gibson. The Carvin also doesn't have the wacky neck or headstock angles that a Gibson does. I've said this a million times, and I'll say it again. If you want a Gibson, BUY A {censored}ING GIBSON. Carvins are unique and aren't for everyone, but they're great guitars with awesome build quality. I hope to buy one again in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Originally Posted by chrispsullivan A CS4 is nothing like a LP Studio. That's true. Because I like the the Studio and dislike the Carvin. Good for me, since it's also cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Originally Posted by guitarbilly74 That's true. Because I like the the Studio and dislike the Carvin. Good for me, since it's also cheaper. I usually tell Gibson guys to stay away from Carvin if they're looking for a Gibson alternative. You're better off sticking with your short scale length and funky angles if that's what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Originally Posted by chrispsullivan I usually tell Gibson guys to stay away from Carvin if they're looking for a Gibson alternative. You're better off sticking with your short scale length and funky angles if that's what you like. I agree I will surely stay away from Carvin guitars. Their amps, on the other hand, I like them quite a bit. Short scale + 17* headstock angle = best EVAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 It just bugs me that people seem to think Carvin prices are so great. They used to be, up to the mid-00's, now they're about the same as most US guitar companies. Buying a Gibson/Fender is like going to a bar scoring some hot {censored} and taking her home. Buying a Carvin is like ordering a mail-order bride and when she arrives, she's pretty hot,but then you realize you could have gotten that same kind of {censored} without having to go through so much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 It just bugs me that people seem to think Carvin prices are so great. They used to be, up to the mid-00's, now they're about the same as most US guitar companies. Buying a Gibson/Fender is like going to a bar scoring some hot {censored} and taking her home. Buying a Carvin is like ordering a mail-order bride and when she arrives, she's pretty hot,but then you realize you could have gotten that same kind of {censored} without having to go through so much trouble. :lol: Carvin prices are only spectacular when you compare them to a brand new PRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ovid9 Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Why do so many people with absolutely horrible aesthetic taste order Carvins? Is it just to tarnish a quality brand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 I've had ALOT of Carvins over the years. They're not the great deals they used to be IMHO - prices have gradually crept upwards to the good deal category, not great deal (still alot of guitar for the money compared to PRS & GIbson, no arguement).Biggest fail around is how guys spew about Carvins not having resale value. THis was true 10 years ago when I bought two figured topped Bolt hardtails for $420 & $450. Nowdays, they go for twice that on eBay EVERY {censored}ING TIME. I've searched eBay for epic deals - there aren't any anymore. Period. Ebay is filled with $1500 CT6's for $1100. Thats pretty much holding resale in my book. You will NOT see a CT6 for $600, which would be what I consider an epic deal & not holding resale ... Isn't this true for *almost* everything (on ebay/wherever)? I remember...not THAT long ago...I could get a PRS custom 22 for 1400...new. You pay the same price now for a lot of things (Kramer Focus?), as you did then new. Sorry dude....I';m saying it's not carvin, it's the economy. ("saying" it as an ignorant mericun.....just my opinion....don't think it's too far off. {censored} just costs more now Period) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skinsscalper Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Am I the only person who buys a guitar because I like it and anticipate keeping it without giving a {censored} about "resale" value? Nope. I never buy a guitar with a thought of what I could get back out of it if I sold it. EVAR. I rarely flip {censored} anyway. I think I've sold two guitars in my life and both went to guys that REALLY needed an axe at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Carvin prices are only spectacular when you compare them to a brand new PRS. This is the thing Billy, even the most golded out, quilted to the max Carvin will STILL be under 2 large, (I've seen some stunners at $1400-$1600). I bought my Navarro sig (plain white, no flame or quilt) for $1800 USED, in 2005 (they were $2195 NEW at the time). Want a 10 top or Artist package on a Custom 24? You better bring $3k, because you aren't getting a 10 top or AP for less than that. I just checked sweetwater, yup, $2705 for a non-10 Custom 24. Carvins don't come anywhere near that, so, for me, the pricing IS pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShaneV2 Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Why do so many people with absolutely horrible aesthetic taste order Carvins? Is it just to tarnish a quality brand? I think it's just that most people have horrible aesthetic taste but other companies don't give them the freedom to express it. I do like the model in the OP though, even though I'd personally go for a solid color paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Carvin is more the chick you go after when the regular variety don't quite live up. A black CS4 is like a toned chick with a pointy head. Ain't nothing wrong with no pointy head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slunderfungus Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 I pretty much am. After owning countless esp, ltd, schecter and ibanez, i have stayed with ESP/LTD and the occasional schecter. I did pick up a custom carvin over the summer though, and it is an impeccable guitar. In general I dont like Carvins but that my freind is a beautiful axe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PDbyS Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think it's just that most people have horrible aesthetic taste but other companies don't give them the freedom to express it. I do like the model in the OP though, even though I'd personally go for a solid color paint job. That pretty much sums it up nicely. Look at the signature guitars out there for even more evidence. A lot of them are just for them and not other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted October 25, 2012 Members Share Posted October 25, 2012 Am I the only person who buys a guitar because I like it and anticipate keeping it without giving a {censored} about "resale" value? Nope. All my stuff is bought like this, and my guitars mostly look like I have no intention of ever selling them. Which is something I regret in the cases where I've ended up selling something. My main guitar looks like absolute {censored} now, but I'll pretty much only ever sell that if it's life or death. And even then, I'd strongly consider just playing it 'til I died, seeing as I probably wouldn't get much for it these days with the condition it's in. The Carvin looks nice. Not a case o' the ol' instant tightpants for me, but if it had another string it'd be pretty close to it. I love a H-S pickup config. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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