Members NeloAngelo Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by LynchProtoge if i wash my schlong will you suck it? Or are you a dirty cock sucker? srs question..... this will get you banned, from church. and here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by LynchProtoge if i wash my schlong will you suck it? Or are you a dirty cock sucker? srs question..... this will get you banned, from church. and here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blargh Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by sbeirnes In my opinion, Man is a moral creature by default. It is part of our DNA and is part of what makes us human. Religion, on the other hand, appears to be a device that people use to justify their own immorality. I don't know about that, kids can be some evil {censored}ers. I think successful human societies have figured out what works and what doesn't over the millenia, and this stuff is mostly learned rather than innate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blargh Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by sbeirnes In my opinion, Man is a moral creature by default. It is part of our DNA and is part of what makes us human. Religion, on the other hand, appears to be a device that people use to justify their own immorality. I don't know about that, kids can be some evil {censored}ers. I think successful human societies have figured out what works and what doesn't over the millenia, and this stuff is mostly learned rather than innate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Weathered Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by NeloAngelo this will get you banned, from church. and here. Actually, if he's part of the Catholic church, I think that's encouraged. As long as it's with an altar boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Weathered Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by NeloAngelo this will get you banned, from church. and here. Actually, if he's part of the Catholic church, I think that's encouraged. As long as it's with an altar boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 > post thread asking opinions> receive opinions> get mad> HCAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 > post thread asking opinions> receive opinions> get mad> HCAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Weathered Actually, if he's part of the Catholic church, I think that's encouraged. As long as it's with an altar boy. he's christian, you can tell... Originally Posted by LynchProtoge I jack hammered your old lady, does that count? She liked it - alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Weathered Actually, if he's part of the Catholic church, I think that's encouraged. As long as it's with an altar boy. he's christian, you can tell... Originally Posted by LynchProtoge I jack hammered your old lady, does that count? She liked it - alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by LynchProtoge You clearly didnt read, so your either just trying to join some dog pile or you are posting in ignorance. Which is it? It's simple. I misread your original post. My mistake... Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by LynchProtoge You clearly didnt read, so your either just trying to join some dog pile or you are posting in ignorance. Which is it? It's simple. I misread your original post. My mistake... Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members coyote-1 Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 'Morality' is entirely subjective. Watch this:- in the bible, god commands Israel to slaughter the canaanites down to the last infant. Today we would call that genocide.- we, the "moral descendants" of the same ancient Israel mentioned above, condemn pacific cannibal tribes as immoral.So we have just established that morality is not objective or absolute. Therefore, the OP's argument starts from a false premise and is therefore meritless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members coyote-1 Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 'Morality' is entirely subjective. Watch this:- in the bible, god commands Israel to slaughter the canaanites down to the last infant. Today we would call that genocide.- we, the "moral descendants" of the same ancient Israel mentioned above, condemn pacific cannibal tribes as immoral.So we have just established that morality is not objective or absolute. Therefore, the OP's argument starts from a false premise and is therefore meritless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phrophus Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by coyote-1 'Morality' is entirely subjective. Watch this: - in the bible, god commands Israel to slaughter the canaanites down to the last infant. Today we would call that genocide. - we, the "moral descendants" of the same ancient Israel mentioned above, condemn pacific cannibal tribes as immoral. So we have just established that morality is not objective or absolute. Therefore, the OP's argument starts from a false premise and is therefore meritless. I'll also add that his sammich was tomato-less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phrophus Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by coyote-1 'Morality' is entirely subjective. Watch this: - in the bible, god commands Israel to slaughter the canaanites down to the last infant. Today we would call that genocide. - we, the "moral descendants" of the same ancient Israel mentioned above, condemn pacific cannibal tribes as immoral. So we have just established that morality is not objective or absolute. Therefore, the OP's argument starts from a false premise and is therefore meritless. I'll also add that his sammich was tomato-less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckSteak Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Didn't read the entire thread, but questions like this from believers crack me up. They don't think it's possible to have morals or a higher code without god. What does that say about them? I choose to live a higher law, have morals and ethics because it's the right thing to do, not because some skyman is going to send me to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckSteak Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Didn't read the entire thread, but questions like this from believers crack me up. They don't think it's possible to have morals or a higher code without god. What does that say about them? I choose to live a higher law, have morals and ethics because it's the right thing to do, not because some skyman is going to send me to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Phrophus I'll also add that his sammich was tomato-less. should have ordered the bacon WITH sausage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Phrophus I'll also add that his sammich was tomato-less. should have ordered the bacon WITH sausage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 hm. responding to the OP, there's nothing saying that athiests can't be 'moral'. they just don't believe the yardstick comes in the form of a book published by other humans regarding faith. instead, they yardstick is a sense of situational ethics. the two may overlap, and often times do.what my question back to you is, is why would doing what is considered 'the right thing' in a situation have to do with belief, or not, in some higher power?it sounds to me more like you have a faith based aversion toward the idea of atheism. there's absolutely no reason that someone NOT necessarily agreeing with your faith can't agree with your morality, despite not coming from the same place of 'faith'. it isn't either/or, and what cracks me up, is that faith can often end up in a place BELIEVING that morality ISN'T a continuum- it's some divinely shaped prescription. Personally, I'm agnostic-- and despite appreciating the value of community in churches, the notion that there is ONE TRUE MORAL way is kinda not one i buy into, especially considering that if morality looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 hm. responding to the OP, there's nothing saying that athiests can't be 'moral'. they just don't believe the yardstick comes in the form of a book published by other humans regarding faith. instead, they yardstick is a sense of situational ethics. the two may overlap, and often times do.what my question back to you is, is why would doing what is considered 'the right thing' in a situation have to do with belief, or not, in some higher power?it sounds to me more like you have a faith based aversion toward the idea of atheism. there's absolutely no reason that someone NOT necessarily agreeing with your faith can't agree with your morality, despite not coming from the same place of 'faith'. it isn't either/or, and what cracks me up, is that faith can often end up in a place BELIEVING that morality ISN'T a continuum- it's some divinely shaped prescription. Personally, I'm agnostic-- and despite appreciating the value of community in churches, the notion that there is ONE TRUE MORAL way is kinda not one i buy into, especially considering that if morality looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rufus21 Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by LynchProtoge if i wash my schlong will you suck it? Or are you a dirty cock sucker? srs question..... That's immoral. And here you are, a devout believer and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rufus21 Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by LynchProtoge if i wash my schlong will you suck it? Or are you a dirty cock sucker? srs question..... That's immoral. And here you are, a devout believer and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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