Members The_J-Train Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 Based on IPs they do not appear to be the same person. Take that for what you will. Seeing as how Voltaire moved to Italy for a period of time, there's no way she(he) would have the same IP address, so it is possible that smachimo the t is in fact Voltaire. Considering his in forum behavior and his staggering amount of daily posts, i'd say there is a good bit of circumstantial evidence against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators justcrash Posted June 21, 2008 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2008 Are the IPs located in the same city/area?You know I won't go into particulars of IPs. All I will say is "they are not the same IPs at all". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Detonator Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 You know I won't go into particulars of IPs. All I will say is "they are not the same IPs at all". AHA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators justcrash Posted June 21, 2008 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2008 Seeing as how Voltaire moved to Italy for a period of time, there's no way she(he) would have the same IP address, so it is possible that smachimo the t is in fact Voltaire. Considering his in forum behavior and his staggering amount of daily posts, i'd say there is a good bit of circumstantial evidence against him. I don't deal in circumstantial "evidence". I don't have "evidence" because neither entity is being investigated for anything. Voltaire was a friend of mine and I hope she is well. I also have all of her IPs for the entire time she posted here and they do not match. Mind you, with the advent of proxies and such, I can't say with 100% certaintity it is NOT the same person. I just have no reason/inclination to dig deeper or investigate it. Phil, Lee and Skunks are a LOT better at looking at that stuff when proxies get involved. They contact ISPs on a regular basis to report abuses, usually at a mods request. Again, I have no reason to look further, and as such, I feel it would be an abuse of my "powers" (as it were) as a mod. You, or anyone else, would probably be upset if we just started digging into personal info without reason. I know I would. I am paying him the same respect. I don't wanna high jack this thread so can we drop it, please? Pretty please? With sugar on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Smachimo the T Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 I don't deal in circumstantial "evidence". I don't have "evidence" because neither entity is being investigated for anything. Voltaire was a friend of mine and I hope she is well. I also have all of her IPs for the entire time she posted here and they do not match. Mind you, with the advent of proxies and such, I can't say with 100% certaintity it is NOT the same person. I just have no reason/inclination to dig deeper or investigate it. Phil, Lee and Skunks are a LOT better at looking at that stuff when proxies get involved. They contact ISPs on a regular basis to report abuses, usually at a mods request. Again, I have no reason to look further, and as such, I feel it would be an abuse of my "powers" (as it were) as a mod. You, or anyone else, would probably be upset if we just started digging into personal info without reason. I know I would. I am paying him the same respect. I don't wanna high jack this thread so can we drop it, please? Pretty please? With sugar on it? thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 thank you. BTW, is your avatar your own work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Totengott Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 Tarzan! hows it goin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 Tarzan! hows it goin'?Not too bad. Stuck at work......boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators justcrash Posted June 21, 2008 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2008 Oh, and JC? I have two words for you: NAT translation*sigh* Yes, I understand that stuff (I kinda have to for my job), but again, I have no reason nor inclination to care at this point. Neither person has broken a rule so I could care less. I am confused why others do? It's usually the other way around (mods caring and members telling mods to STFU!). The only time I will investigate an alt is if they are trolling. Nothing prsonal, bro. If I allowed myself to get OCD about this place (any more than I am) I will end up in a looney bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComingApart Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 thread derailment-> what happened to Voltaire anyway? Why did it leave?Was it really a woman? Would it show me it's boobies? These are the important questions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted June 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 thread derailment-> what happened to Voltaire anyway? Why did it leave?Was it really a woman? Would it show me it's boobies?These are the important questions... "IT" went to visit family in a third world country. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Smachimo the T Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 why would I use NAT translation...for a forum.. I'VE GOT TEH GOVERNMENT SECRETZ TAT I WANTZ TO HIDEZ FROM HCAF ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted June 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 nah, boogie still lurks at ESP and then brings {censored} here. where at all did i bring anything from there here? all i said was carlino is a scheister and i havent heard a good thing about him lately. i also said the same thing a couple years ago here. what i said is from what i picked up at the dean board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators justcrash Posted June 21, 2008 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2008 thread derailment-> what happened to Voltaire anyway? Why did it leave? Was it really a woman? Would it show me it's boobies? These are the important questions... 1. People here couldn't get over the fact she was a girl and the sausage factory ran her off2. "it" was a friend of mine, like many of you guys3. Yes4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ComingApart Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 4. DOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators justcrash Posted June 21, 2008 Moderators Share Posted June 21, 2008 DOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 LIES ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeathMonkey Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 Great thread. Would read again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nitrous2400 Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 DOH! but yeah im not ever buyin from carlino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thenakedarab Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 Here's what happened: Jon ( Soulfly38 at the ESP Board ) bought an LTD EC-400 from Carlino. Carlino took Jon's $600, and as with all LTDs, waited until the shipment of EC-400s came in stock. When they did, Carlino told Jon that they weren't the right color, and that he'd have to wait for the next shipment. Fast forward about a year and a half later. Jon threatens to sue Carlino for theft and contacts the BBB, and Carlino finally returns the money. This is after 1.5 YEARS of trying to get in touch with him. Carlino wouldn't answer the phone or any emails until Jon had to send a letter from his attorney, certified, delivery confirmation mail. There's more to it but I can't remember it exactly and I would rather omit details than say incorrect ones. Dean gets involved when Jon starts to warn other forums that Carlino actively sells on. The Dean Forum is one of those. He goes there, posts his story, and surprisingly quite a few people reported similar experience. In a matter of days the post is deleted. Dean Guitars forum policy is now "Anyone that talks bad about any Dean dealer gets permabanned". In other words, Dean Guitars were actively trying to cover up and prevent awareness that one of their dealers is a thief! {censored} that. I was looking at some Washburn, Dean and Hamer guitars to pick up as platforms for customizing. Now I'll cross Dean off that list, and I'll damn sure never buy a single guitar from Carlino guitars. Thanks for the heads up, two new additions to the no deals with list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thenakedarab Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 1. People here couldn't get over the fact she was a girl and the sausage factory ran her off As they do with all women eventually. It's weird, even in vr they get all creepy pervo. Come on dudes, it's just a chick. Might be ugly, might not, and the odds of you hitting it or even getting a titty shot in your e-mail are slim to nil. Just let them hang out, and try not to let your lack of penile confidence get in the way of being cool. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Angel Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 1. People here couldn't get over the fact she was a girl and the sausage factory ran her off 2. "it" was a friend of mine, like many of you guys 3. Yes 4. For a second I thought 3 and 4 were backwards. Doh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mparsons Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 {censored} that. I was looking at some Washburn, Dean and Hamer guitars to pick up as platforms for customizing. Now I'll cross Dean off that list, and I'll damn sure never buy a single guitar from Carlino guitars. Thanks for the heads up, two new additions to the no deals with list. Agile makes pretty good "platform" guitars, and if you want a really funky look, the Parker P series are great for modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thenakedarab Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 Agile makes pretty good "platform" guitars, and if you want a really funky look, the Parker P series are great for modding. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted June 21, 2008 Members Share Posted June 21, 2008 {censored} that. I was looking at some Washburn, Dean and Hamer guitars to pick up as platforms for customizing. Now I'll cross Dean off that list, and I'll damn sure never buy a single guitar from Carlino guitars. Thanks for the heads up, two new additions to the no deals with list. Get the Hamer, bro. Just got my black Standard yesterday, it kicks ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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