Members Primo Posted July 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 2, 2008 Thanks for the suggestions! I actually have quite a bit of presence(more) and treble dialed in, thinking this would make it cut in the mix better. I also play everything from classic rock to numetal so I need the versatility. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsnuffer Posted July 2, 2008 Members Share Posted July 2, 2008 Turn it up. Seriously, if you can hear what I'm {censored}ing typing it isn't loud enough. -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Primo Posted July 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 2, 2008 Personally i like the "fizz" of the Recto, it's what makes a Recto a Recto. But if you wan't a more crunchy Marshall sound changing the 6l6 power tubes to EL34's will change alot. What type of El34's would you recommend? I've been thinking of this for a while. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zehn Posted July 2, 2008 Members Share Posted July 2, 2008 What type of El34's would you recommend? I've been thinking of this for a while.Cheers. SED Winged C's are the best on the market IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thinkpad20 Posted July 2, 2008 Members Share Posted July 2, 2008 What type of El34's would you recommend? I've been thinking of this for a while.Cheers. JJ E34Ls sounded killer in my Mark IV. Might be a good pick for the recto as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Heineken Posted July 2, 2008 Members Share Posted July 2, 2008 SED Winged C's are the best on the market IMO. I agree on that totally, use 'm in all my amps since i first tried 'm (Marshalls) but for a Recto the JJ's Thinkpad mentioned could be great also, they sound darker taming the brittleness even more, just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Primo Posted July 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 2, 2008 how about the svetlanas(not the winged c's)? Heres a quote about them from the TUBESTORE. "The Svetlana EL34 is the perfect tube for classic rock. The midrange is very pronounced and the high end is smooth. The bottom end response is not the best, but in a guitar amp it becomes a moot point. In the test amp the mids just rip through the mix. No guitar player is going to get lost in the mix using these tubes. These tubes deliver incredible crunch making them perfect for that ZZ Top, old EVH sound. Seven string down-strokers may not be as pleased because they don't have that crushing bottom end. The Winged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wanky Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 Diode-Rectified, Bold on Modern Red doesn't have enough attack for you, huh? Righttttttttt.... And boost pedals can cost as little as $40 or less. its has enough attack with a boost, but there are other amps that give me much more attack, crunch and grind for a cheaper price without depending on the boost. Just compare the attack on the bold modern red diode mode on a recto compared to a 6505+ or JVM410. Those two amps have the perfect amunt of attack, and i think Marshall copied someof peavey's cuicuitry on their OD2 channel and even added resonance control, i don't care cuz its sounds great. The recto will have thicker tone, but the JVM and 6505+ will have a noticeble amount more attack and grind, and they can pack more on tap gain into their amps becuase that tightness prevents the sound from getting muddy and loose. I only like loose tone when im playing moderate gain blues, that sounds creamy, loose voicing and hi-gain just sounds muddy. I also don't like how the recto blends with the bass in the mix, to me, i wanna hear my guitar stand out from everything else, and i use a scooped tone, but i use more midrange than what u might think. Marshalls and 5150s are pretty distinct when u hear em on stage. Ive played rectos, ive played my friends recto, ive played em at shops, ive heard them at shows, decent amp but i still prefer my blue voodoo, i don't care who or how many ppl blast me for saying that, its just a difference in preferance of tone. I need my fast attack to be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wanky Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 preaching to the converted. Rectos and I never got along :cop:cant stand those biatches... I agree it's a decent amp for the price, cant argue with the wallet 350 for 120w all tube amp is insane... hell I got mine for 500 4 years ago ...but I'd nab an 8100 again (surprising little amp) before a bv120. as for 5150... FTW!!! Man I love 5150s. I sold mine to try out the engl. Engl is sweet...like a hi fi 5150. But it's nowhere NEAR as mean as the fifty got I miss that beast both the 5150 and 5150II are modern classics, way more than ten years of production, they haven't changed and still sound but far better than nearly all hi-gain amps today the 5150II is the perfect amp for me, tight cutting aggresive hi-gain and not to bad bad of clean ethier, and thats all i need to be satified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yabba Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 turn the gain down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wanky Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 preaching to the converted. Rectos and I never got along :cop:cant stand those biatches... I agree it's a decent amp for the price, cant argue with the wallet 350 for 120w all tube amp is insane... hell I got mine for 500 4 years ago ...but I'd nab an 8100 again (surprising little amp) before a bv120. as for 5150... FTW!!! Man I love 5150s. I sold mine to try out the engl. Engl is sweet...like a hi fi 5150. But it's nowhere NEAR as mean as the fifty got I miss that beast +1 glad to see another person actually judge these amps of their tone rather than their hype the blue voodoo is the best of its price range, it sounds better than compareable amps. Its sound more like a 5150 than the valveking and b-52 AT which are also a pretty good deals. With a well tweaked graphic eq, the blue voodoo is complete hi-gain crunch monster they are inconsitant, i have two they sound a little different, ive heard other ones sound different, but my 120watter is exactly what i described above run into a good one and im sure it won't dispoint u, esspecially for under 400 bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa4x12er2 Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 I just can't stand how looseness, saggyness and the lack of attack the rectos tone is, i know ppl say they boost it to tighten its up, but there are better amps out there for cheaper that don't have any need for a boost Yeah there are plenty of nice stiff tight turds out there:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kdp86 Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 buy a new amp, rectos are fizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 Thanks for the suggestions! I actually have quite a bit of presence(more) and treble dialed in, thinking this would make it cut in the mix better. Cheers This is the number 1 reason for the fizz. Download the manual, it tells you to set the presence between off and 9:00 or, "2". Like everyone else has said, gain down a little, presence WAY down, treble down, and volume up, that will make a big difference, MUCH bigger than changing a tube or tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Primo Posted July 3, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 This is the number 1 reason for the fizz. Download the manual, it tells you to set the presence between off and 9:00 or, "2". Like everyone else has said, gain down a little, presence WAY down, treble down, and volume up, that will make a big difference, MUCH bigger than changing a tube or tubes. Gotcha!:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noseminer Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 rectos dont need a boost to tighten up, except for at low volumes. Your guitar is prolly mushy if you think it needs a boost imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoomzilla Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 Tube changes will do wonders as well, I think that was mentioned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wolfspider Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 turn the volume up and get rid of that marshall cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoomzilla Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 Uh, what's wrong with teh Marshall Cab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsnuffer Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 Uh, what's wrong with teh Marshall Cab? Marshall cabs, newer ones at least, have G12T75 speakers which have a very scooped frequency response, with a big bass and fizzy top end. When you combine this with the semi-scooped tone the recto's tend to have, you get a very fizzy high end. You can fix this with the right EQ settings though. Learn the preamp in the recto. Learn how each stage carries over into the next. Adjusting the treble will effect the mid and bass as well as the gain. Go easy on the gain, and heavy on the volume. I had a DR for years and got some very nice tones out of it while I did. It's a great amp, it just takes patience and you can make it sound very bad if you're not careful. -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 it's not the marshall cab that's the problem, it's the V30's inside it. V30's are a fizz factory. get non fizzy speakers, wipe your caulk all over the inside of the cab also. be sure to rub it in all the crevasses to help seal up the wood joints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoomzilla Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 The 1960A or B come with the 75's I think. Mine has Greenbacks. It pairs up well with the recto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 *no Comment* BTW everything sounds better with greenbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wolfspider Posted July 3, 2008 Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 The Recto cab can manage the boom of the low end better than the marshall cab and that can help you get rid of that fizzy tone. The greenbacks are killer speakers also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Primo Posted July 3, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 3, 2008 I changed from gt75's to v30's to get a lil' more midrange punch.Also, the mesa cabs come with v30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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