30~40 watts tube amps

[strings4v]

Thanks for all of your guys' advice, my decision towards an affordable (price range ~$400 ish used) all tube amp comes down to these.

1. marshall Haze 40

2. marshall JCM 2000 DSL 401 combo

3. Jet city 22 (20 watts 2 channels)

4. peavey classic 30 

 

I like Andy Timmons and Guthrie govan. Amp doesn't have to suit for mid scooped metal. A good amount of low end with thick overdrive (I play instrumental genre a lot) will be a keeper. 

As far as the conditions go, 

0. BANG FOR THE BUCK (OBVI)

1. decent clean (please just be better than marshall VS 102R that I own right now...)

2, take pedals good (i am a pedal freak) -> FX loop is a must

3. at least 2 ch with a footswitch / sperated EQ would be nice but .... i can compromise on that 

4. If reverb sounds good, that gets a point

5. great overdrive w/ reasonable length of sustain 

6. additional tremolo or things like that would be a plus but not a necessity.

7. 12 INCH SPEAKER

8. emulated output would be good and some power break feature like turning it into lower wattage (not a must though)

9. would like to have a presence knob on EQ but my eq pedal can do the job so preferable but not a must

10. please consider a resale price... in case I happen to go out and buy Mesa Lonstar of something when i get to be able to afford those. 

 

And my ultimate questions are

1. Will I better of if I change the amp to a full tube amp like those from Marshall Valvestate 102 R?

2. Would I be able to hear myself while I play with a drummer with 20 watts tube amps?

3. What is the soundwise difference between EL 34 and EL 84?

[stratotastic]

The correct answer is the Peavey Classic 30.

[tlbonehead]

 

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stratotastic wrote:

 

The correct answer is the Peavey Classic 30.

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That's one of a number of possible correct answers.

[Razsan]

Crate V32 Palominos or the sister version V30 (not the new ones) are wonderful amps and can be had thru GC's used section for under $300. To my ears it was much better on the gain side than the Peavey 30 and also has a REALLY nice clean channel. The only down side is that the amp gets HOT and you need to put a small fan in the back to cool it down. On the plus side, doing that extends the life of the tubes. 

[Steve2112]

Judging by your requirements...I would think a Fender would best suit you. It would satisfy the most of all your requirements. They can tend toward needing to be played loud...but if you really are a "pedal freak"...that shouldn't be any problem.

 

Of course the Crate would work okay too. I'd also check Blackstar.

 

Regarding your Marshall...here's a clip I did with the VS100r (1x12 combo) and "pedals":

The Storm

[Steve2112]

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Razsan wrote:

Crate V32 Palominos or the sister version V30 (not the new ones) are wonderful amps and can be had thru GC's used section for under $300. To my ears it was much better on the gain side than the Peavey 30 and also has a REALLY nice clean channel. The only down side is that the amp gets HOT and you need to put a small fan in the back to cool it down. On the plus side, doing that extends the life of the tubes. 

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I'm detecting a pattern here.