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Originally posted by batotman

LMFAO....wikipedia has this one up too....


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And I thought you guys had tampered with this one too! biggrin.gif Now you made me go to Wikipedia. Note what they say about tuning. Isn't this controversial at best (i.e. nonsense)? There is nothing wrong with the thirds on my guitar... confused.gif


Tuning

Though rarely discussed, one of the most distinctive aspects of Van Halen's sound was Eddie Van Halen's tuning of the guitar. Before Van Halen, most distorted, metal-oriented rock consciously avoided the use of the major third interval in guitar chords, creating instead the signature power chord of the genre. When run through a distorted amplifier, the rapid beating of the major third on a conventionally tuned guitar is distracting and somewhat dissonant.


Van Halen developed a technique of flatting his B string slightly so that the interval between the open G and B is a perfect, beatless third. This consonant third was almost unheard of in distorted-guitar rock and allowed Van Halen to use major chords in a way that mixed classic hard rock power with "happy" pop. The effect is pronounced on songs such as "Runnin' With the Devil", "Unchained", and "Where Have All the Good Times Gone?".


With the B string flatted the correct amount, chords in some positions on the guitar have perfect thirds, but in other positions the flat B string creates out of tune intervals. As Eddie once remarked to Guitar Player, "A guitar is just theoretically built wrong. Each string is an interval of fourths, and then the B string is off. Theoretically, that's not right. If you tune an open E chord in the first position and it's perfectly in tune, and then you hit a barre chord an octave higher, it's out of tune. The B string is always a mother{censored}er to keep in tune all the time! So I have to retune for certain songs. And when I use the Floyd onstage, I have to unclamp it and do it real quick. But with a standard-vibrato guitar, I can tune it while I'm playing."

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Originally posted by RockNote


And I thought you guys had tampered with this one too! biggrin.gif Now you made me go to Wikipedia. Note what they say about tuning. Isn't this controversial at best (i.e. nonsense)? There is nothing wrong with the thirds on my guitar... confused.gif


Tuning

Though rarely discussed, one of the most distinctive aspects of Van Halen's sound was Eddie Van Halen's tuning of the guitar. Before Van Halen, most distorted, metal-oriented rock consciously avoided the use of the major third interval in guitar chords, creating instead the signature power chord of the genre. When run through a distorted amplifier, the rapid beating of the major third on a conventionally tuned guitar is distracting and somewhat dissonant.


Van Halen developed a technique of flatting his B string slightly so that the interval between the open G and B is a perfect, beatless third. This consonant third was almost unheard of in distorted-guitar rock and allowed Van Halen to use major chords in a way that mixed classic hard rock power with "happy" pop. The effect is pronounced on songs such as "Runnin' With the Devil", "Unchained", and "Where Have All the Good Times Gone?".


With the B string flatted the correct amount, chords in some positions on the guitar have perfect thirds, but in other positions the flat B string creates out of tune intervals. As Eddie once remarked to Guitar Player, "A guitar is just theoretically built wrong. Each string is an interval of fourths, and then the B string is off. Theoretically, that's not right. If you tune an open E chord in the first position and it's perfectly in tune, and then you hit a barre chord an octave higher, it's out of tune. The B string is always a mother{censored}er to keep in tune all the time! So I have to retune for certain songs. And when I use the Floyd onstage, I have to unclamp it and do it real quick. But with a standard-vibrato guitar, I can tune it while I'm playing."

 

I havent actually looked into - but it seems this is similar to the Feiten tuning. IIRC, the B String was always the string that caused the problems and the Feiten Tuning fixes this by moving the nut slightly. Up and down the neck everything sound better between the G & B strings.
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