Members bullpencoach Posted January 29, 2004 Members Posted January 29, 2004 I think I am definitely going to buy one of these in the near future, but I wanted to get some opinions. From what I can tell, the only difference between these two models is in the neck width. OM: 1 3/4 (nut) 2 1/4 (12th fret) 000: 1 11/16 (nut) 2 1/8 (12th fret) And of course, the guitar I play most often has measurements exactly in between the two Are there any other differences or reasons why any of you prefer one over the other? So far I've only gotten to play the OM-15, though I've played other 000 models.
Members 54merk Posted January 29, 2004 Members Posted January 29, 2004 Yep, you're right. Both are 14 fret guitars but the fretboard widths are different. Should be the same otherwise. Wider is better for fingerpicking, and those that simply find the extra room to their liking.
Members nylon rock Posted January 29, 2004 Members Posted January 29, 2004 Yes, the 000-15 strings are slightly closer together, 1/16" at the nut and 1/8" at the bridge. Then there is the "look" of the two models. Although I usually prefer the look of the teardrop pickguard of OM models, the 000-15 pickguard looks a lot "cooler" than the 0M-15. It is just a lot curvier. Other than these two things, the guitars are the same, it appears. If you have thick fingers, then the OM is better since you won't touch adjacent strings as easily as with the 000. These are entry level guitars, the kind you learn on, and if you pursue guitar you will move on to more expensive and distinctly different models. For example the usual difference between an OM and a 000 is the scale, 25.4" vs. 24.9". A comparison here would weigh upon the "attack" of fingers versus a pick, with the longer length scale giving more volume due to the higher tension in the strings. A finger picker would favor the longer scale to get the same volume as a picker, but the picker would favor the slightly more forgiving bend of the strings to his pick, and the slightly easier ability to bend notes rather than rely heavily on hammer on/pull off finesse. If you don't have stubby fingers, I would recommend the 000-15, since its scale is the same as the OM-15 and it has a cooler looking pickguard. There you have it. Hope this helps you.
Members bullpencoach Posted January 29, 2004 Author Members Posted January 29, 2004 Ah - totally didn't notice the pickguard. I think I prefer the 000 pickguard as well, though it's obviously isn't a striking difference to me. I think I might go with the OM, since I do fingerpick, and downgrading in width from the guitar I use now probably isn't the best idea for that... Thanks guys! You always get the best responses around here.
Members orsino Posted January 30, 2004 Members Posted January 30, 2004 Loved my D-15 and OM-15 but alas have sold them to new lucky owners. Great guitars. You won't be disappointed!
Members guitarcapo Posted January 30, 2004 Members Posted January 30, 2004 scale length and nut width are about it....I favor the 000 ffor what it's worth. God favors the 000 too...um..I mean Eric Clapton.
Members orsino Posted January 30, 2004 Members Posted January 30, 2004 Originally posted by guitarcapo scale length and nut width are about it....I favor the 000 ffor what it's worth. God favors the 000 too...um..I mean Eric Clapton. :D :D
Members bullpencoach Posted January 30, 2004 Author Members Posted January 30, 2004 Another option for me is the 000M. I really enjoyed the Clapton model, and cosmetically, I prefer the 000M to the 000-15. I find that it looks great in photos but a little plain in person. Just a taste thing, I guess.
Members SurrealMcCoy Posted January 30, 2004 Members Posted January 30, 2004 I'm very satisfied with my 000C-15E. In addition to being very light weight; I love the dark, woody tone of this Martin.
Members Mattface Posted January 31, 2004 Members Posted January 31, 2004 The difference in neck width doesn't look like much on paper, but get them in your hands for at least 15 minutes each and you will know which you prefer. I prefer the narrower neck. It may just be that that is what I'm used to, but I considered some OM style guitars, and I wasn't sure I would care for the wider neck once I got used to it. The 000-15 I played sounded incredible. I assume the OM-15 would sound about the same, but I can't confirm it. I am currently anxiously awaiting UPS delivery of MY 000-15. Purchased from a very fine fellow over on the UMGF with a WICKED bad case of GAS. I was happy to be of help, actually it was mutually beneficial as we BOTH got new guitars we had been pining for.
Members orsino Posted January 31, 2004 Members Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by bullpencoach Another option for me is the 000M. I really enjoyed the Clapton model, and cosmetically, I prefer the 000M to the 000-15. I find that it looks great in photos but a little plain in person. Just a taste thing, I guess. You might try polishing the 15. Here's a link to pix of mine after polishing.http://www.orsino.lfhost.com/photos-Martin.html
Members Mattface Posted January 31, 2004 Members Posted January 31, 2004 Great pics Orsino. What polishing system did you use in that? And did you change the tunres or just the buttons?
Members orsino Posted January 31, 2004 Members Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by Mattface Great pics Orsino. What polishing system did you use in that? And did you change the tunres or just the buttons? Just the buttons Matt (ebony). Here's a link to how I did it.http://pub125.ezboard.com/ftheunofficialmartinguitarforumfrm72.showMessage?topicID=1.topic
Members Mattface Posted January 31, 2004 Members Posted January 31, 2004 Thanks Orsino, I'm thinking of doing Grover Sta Tite butterbeans, but if I decide not to change the tuners I might just do Ebony buttons. I will probably polish it out at some point, but I think I am going to live with my new 000-15 for a while before I change a thing.
Members EvilHippy Posted January 31, 2004 Members Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by guitarcapo scale length and nut width are about it....I favor the 000 ffor what it's worth. God favors the 000 too...um..I mean Eric Clapton. You mean God and Eric Clapton aren't the same? *has mental breakdown* I took about a two hour nap earlier today and had a dream that I was Eric Clapton. and I was playing the Royal Albert Hall. ~ EH:D
Members orsino Posted January 31, 2004 Members Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by Mattface Thanks Orsino,I'm thinking of doing Grover Sta Tite butterbeans, but if I decide not to change the tuners I might just do Ebony buttons. I will probably polish it out at some point, but I think I am going to live with my new 000-15 for a while before I change a thing. Matt,I have the set of ebony buttons that I used on my Martin. When I sold it I put back the original buttons. I'll give them to you if you want them. Email me your address if you're interested.
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