D'addarios phosphor bronze... I find them very dull....What do you think????

[therhythmman]

My Auditorium sized guitar with German solid spruce top and long scale length came with Elixirs ( don't know the model ) and didn't like the feel. The sound was a bit strange but nice. I put a set of d'addarios EJ16 phosphor bronze and the sound is much, much duller. More mids but not in a nice way. I think I might prefer EXP 80/20 Bronze D'addarios.

I play fingerstyle with my bare fingers and my nails are not too long so that might be the reason for my need of brighter/more lively strings....

What do you think???

[USian Pie]

 

Originally posted by Danofever What do you think???

 

 

Agreed. D'Addario Phosphor Bronze seem to have less treble than other brands.

 

On the other hand, their tuning stability has been excellent in my experience.

[infoghost]

I know many swear by these, but I find the same thing. They sound dull to me and don't last very long.

[seven7]

they definitely sound kinda dull to me compared to elixir nanoweb strings.

 

if you get the 80/20's just be aware they're not going to keep their bright sound for long. those strings wear out pretty quick. the exp version with the coating will help some, but still not an extremely long lasting string, imo...i do remember liking them better than the phos bronze exp's though.

 

maybe someone else can recommend a brighter string for you that is longer lasting.

 

personally, i like the elixir nanowebs.

[Luv2Play]

I just tried some myself, they were in fact DULL.

[Mike Crixell]

Nanowebs ARE D'Addarrio's, with a coating made by Gore around the string windings. Same strings, otherwise.

[LittleBrother]

Diddario PBs (EJ-16 I think) are rather edgy actually but PB strings in general are more warm that Elixir Nanos.

 

Elixir Nanos dont even begin to get mellow for about a week.

 

Mike is right about them being the same brand but I am not sure about them being the exact same string.

 

Nanos are far more bright than almost any uncoated PB out there.

 

If you want bright PBs I might suggest John Pearse PBs. They are rather bright or clear.

[woody b]

 

Originally posted by LittleBrother Nanos are far more bright than almost any uncoated PB out there.

 

 

Elixirs, both nanos and polys are 80/20's I've heard alot of places that they are indeed D'addarios but I don't know for sure.

[Mike Crixell]

Nanowebs are indeed exactly the same strings as comparable gauge plain ol' D'Addarrio's.

 

Gore does nothing but coat them. I've tried Nanos before, and they retain the stringiness of new strings longer because they don't get gunked up and/or oxidized like uncoated D's, but they are the exact same strings folks buy as D'Addario PBs.

[Promethius]

I can't stand D'Addario strings. They are very, very dull to me. Love Martin SP's and DR Rares. Pearse are brighter but a little thin sounding to me.

[Tele like it is]

I personaly lke the sound of the EJ 16 D'adarrio's. I change strings frequently though. I also play with my bare fingers and fairly hard and the Martins definatley don't sound good when plucked hard to my ear. I perceive the EJ 16's as warm rather than dull but personal style and type of guitar are factors here as a well as individual taste.

[Markdsatx]

I don't know if I would call the sound dull, but the EJ16's sounded warm/dark to my ears. The Martin Darco 80/20's sound much more lively. Now I've dropped down to Extra Lights to spare my hands. I tried the EJ15's and they are alot brighter and I actually have to play them a few days before they settle in and give me a warmer sound that I'm happy with.

 

Mark

[sevenup]

I rather like D'Addario PB (EJ16 to 19). They are darker and warmer sound then most 80/20 out there. Depends on what you are looking for. If you want the sound to have that shimmering texture, then 80/20 would fit and PB would seem dull. But if you find a fuller, darker and warmer sound, then PB would fit the bill, and 80/20 would be too bright.

[therhythmman]

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[LittleBrother]

The Nanos and Polys are 80/20....... I can see the difference in color alone. They are not the exact same string as DiAddario Phosphor Bronze.... such as the EJ-16....

 

 

QUOTE FROM ELIXIR ..........

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All of our Acoustic wound strings: Acoustic Guitar, Acoustic Mandolin, Banjo, Resonator Guitar, Acoustic Bass

(NOT Classical Guitar) are made with:

 

A steel hex-core* wire

80/20 bronze* wrap wire

POLYWEB

[SpoonyJank]

brass just tarnishes way faster than actual bronze, but it wouldn't matter if its coated and just wanted a bright string because of it

[Mike Crixell]

Last night I read the same info from the Gore site re Nanoweb windings being made of 80/20. I had previously read that the windings were PB, and the strings were otherwise identical to uncoated D'Addarios. I stand corrected.

 

It seems that the string cores are all made of the same steel, the windings are made of different materials, and both sets of strings (plain uncoated and Ellixirs) are manufactured by D'Addario.

 

Mike

[Tele like it is]

OK I was in the music store yesterday and I saw the Elixirs and decided to try them. The ones I picked up are Polyweb. How are these different than nano's?

I'm hoping to get 'em strung up today and am looking forward to all the brightness.

[LittleBrother]

 

Originally posted by Tele like it is OK I was in the music store yesterday and I saw the Elixirs and decided to try them. The ones I picked up are Polyweb. How are these different than nano's? I'm hoping to get 'em strung up today and am looking forward to all the brightness.

 

 

Polys are the older kind that many people complained about. They have a thicker coating which does eliminate string noises but they also have the skin coming off of them when they get worn and more dandruff flaking off where the pick hits them. Most people hate them and I guess the lack of string noise and smooth feel make some people happy. One thing I noticed. Once you get used to playing Polys then you change to a guitar with normal strings yous technique has gotten more relaxed and alot of buzzing occurs. Maybe thats just me.

 

The Nanos are the newer ones with a baked on coating (I think). In any case it is a thinner coating with a different process and people love these alot more. They sound alot better IMO and they dont shed like a snake.

 

I think the Nanos are what you wanted to buy...

[EvilTwin]

I actually think regular 'ol Martin Marqis strings have a great sound -- not too bright, not too dull, and with a lot of balls. And mind have lasted me a very long time (I'm talking months here).

[Tele like it is]

 

Originally posted by LittleBrother Polys are the older kind that many people complained about. They have a thicker coating which does eliminate string noises but they also have the skin coming off of them when they get worn and more dandruff flaking off where the pick hits them. Most people hate them and I guess the lack of string noise and smooth feel make some people happy. One thing I noticed. Once you get used to playing Polys then you change to a guitar with normal strings yous technique has gotten more relaxed and alot of buzzing occurs. Maybe thats just me. The Nanos are the newer ones with a baked on coating (I think). In any case it is a thinner coating with a different process and people love these alot more. They sound alot better IMO and they dont shed like a snake. I think the Nanos are what you wanted to buy...

 

 

Thanks LB, Luckily the store is only three blocks away and I haven't put them on yet. I'll see if they have the nano's.

 

Evil, I love my regular old EJ-16 Custom light set but they were out of those and I just wanted to ckeck out the elixers to see what all the fuss is about.

[confuseitall]

My Norman came with Daddario Phos. Bronze and so that's what I bought to replace them. My guitar sounded awesome when I bought it, but after a week with the new strings it sounded waaay too harsh. I'm trying my webstrings Phos.

[therhythmman]

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[takeout]

At about T-plus 5 minutes, D'Addario's are too bright.

 

At about T-plus 30 minutes (of playing), they sound just right.

 

At about T-plus 2 hours, they are hopelessly oxidized. And I don't even have very nasty hand sweat.

 

Nanos are on it right now; I'm not crazy about the slickness (or the fuzzy shedding), but the wounds are still nice and bright a month later.

[Andrewrg]

Nanowebs get my vote,they last ages-up to a couple of months playing an hour or so a day.Also the tone is pretty consistent over their lifetime.If you have corrosive sweat they are a Godsend!