Members kwakatak Posted January 28, 2006 Members Posted January 28, 2006 I should know better, but I have to ask for confirmation: is it wise to hook up two acoustic/electric dreadnoughts to a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe? I would think that that configuration would sound terrible and be prone to massive feedback.
Members kwakatak Posted January 28, 2006 Author Members Posted January 28, 2006 bump! No I'm not joking, this is a serious question that applies to a potential gig (praise band).
Members daklander Posted January 28, 2006 Members Posted January 28, 2006 That Deluxe should be like the de Ville, just smaller, and the one channel is for passive input with the second for pre-amp'd guitars. Cut the mid-range (middle) and tune the bass and treble to suit. It won't be true acoustic but it'll get by, particularly if you have one of the guitars with a passive pickup and the other with a pre-amp. I use my Hot Rod de Ville for acoustic when I need to though I normally run direct to PA. [EDIT] Duh, I just read the manual again and iIf used alone, the first channel is for passive and the second is for pre-amp'd inputs, with a 6dB cut in sensitivity. If used simultaneously they are the same.[/EDIT]
Members BlueStrat Posted January 28, 2006 Members Posted January 28, 2006 I use my HRD at gigs to run my acoustic through when I do the duo, but only one guitar. And you have to keep the volume low or it will distort. I just use it as a stage mopnitor and use the pre-amp out to the board. If you're doing a praise band, why not just run the guitar right into the board and have it back through the monitors?
Members JasmineTea Posted January 28, 2006 Members Posted January 28, 2006 With one guitar, not too good. With two guitars, pretty bad. But try it anyway so you'll know. Was a guy I new years ago who swore by a tube powered Sure Vocal Master. But that's a bit different from a HotRod. You got a gig?
Members kwakatak Posted January 29, 2006 Author Members Posted January 29, 2006 Thanks, fellas: I remember years ago before I got the HRD that two guitars in one amp sound like a$$ and they were 2 electrics in a solid-state amp. I figured that 2 acoustics (full-bodied dreads no less) into a tube amp would sound dead and prone to feedback. Yeah, it appears that I've got a gig at least once a month playing contemporary praise & worship music with a band that a few guys in my church's congregation started up a few months ago. There are 5 core members and I'm hoping to be no. 6. As it stands now, there are 3 other guitars in the band. Two are sharing a Fender Acoustisonic and since they both play the exact same parts you can't notice the difference too much. OTOH, the 3rd guitarist plays a 12 string and no 4 would be me on a mic'd 6 string. I think I have a better idea though. I have a Shure PG57 (cheap version of the SM57) and a mike stand with a boom along with a Behringer UB1202 mixer. I'm gonna suggest that they mic the 12 string with the Shure mic. I'll leave my acoustic home and use my Strat with the HRD as it is meant to be used and run that out to the mixer. If the other two guys don't have mics of their own, then they can at least run a line from the Acoustisonic to the mixer as well. For me, playing acoustic as well would be nice but I think that I may be better able to flesh out the sound with an electric in the mix. Besides, my Tak doesn't have a pickup and doesn't mic well. Four guys strumming is also overkill IMO so I'd just as well leave my acoustic at home. That is unless I get another acoustic guitar (preferably with a pickup installed) that fills some void that the Strat couldn't. That's a tall order when you consider that the band also has a drummer and a keyboard player (though they're short a bassist at the moment) that overpower the acoustics in the mix anyway. EDIT: BTW, they don't have a soundboard yet though they're talking about purchasing something small along with some more mics soon.
Members BlueStrat Posted January 29, 2006 Members Posted January 29, 2006 Originally posted by kwakatak Thanks, fellas: I remember years ago before I got the HRD that two guitars in one amp sound like a$$ and they were 2 electrics in a solid-state amp. I figured that 2 acoustics (full-bodied dreads no less) into a tube amp would sound dead and prone to feedback. Yeah, it appears that I've got a gig at least once a month playing contemporary praise & worship music with a band that a few guys in my church's congregation started up a few months ago. There are 5 core members and I'm hoping to be no. 6. As it stands now, there are 3 other guitars in the band. Two are sharing a Fender Acoustisonic and since they both play the exact same parts you can't notice the difference too much. OTOH, the 3rd guitarist plays a 12 string and no 4 would be me on a mic'd 6 string. I think I have a better idea though. I have a Shure PG57 (cheap version of the SM57) and a mike stand with a boom along with a Behringer UB1202 mixer. I'm gonna suggest that they mic the 12 string with the Shure mic. I'll leave my acoustic home and use my Strat with the HRD as it is meant to be used and run that out to the mixer. If the other two guys don't have mics of their own, then they can at least run a line from the Acoustisonic to the mixer as well. For me, playing acoustic as well would be nice but I think that I may be better able to flesh out the sound with an electric in the mix. Besides, my Tak doesn't have a pickup and doesn't mic well. Four guys strumming is also overkill IMO so I'd just as well leave my acoustic at home. That is unless I get another acoustic guitar (preferably with a pickup installed) that fills some void that the Strat couldn't. That's a tall order when you consider that the band also has a drummer and a keyboard player (though they're short a bassist at the moment) that overpower the acoustics in the mix anyway.EDIT: BTW, they don't have a soundboard yet though they're talking about purchasing something small along with some more mics soon. 4 guitars would be my worst nightmare, and overkill as well, especially with a 12 string in the mix. Just the tuning issues make me cringe. Having said that, I think using the electic is the way to go to stand out. I'd also urge at least one of the acoustic players to go with a capo and use different chord voicings and perhaps play some different parts.
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