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For the life of me I can't tell projection from volume.


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I always assumed that a loud guitar more or less "projects" better. But I keep seeing a distinction between the 2 terms in guitar reviews.

 

Having switched to a bone saddle recently, I feel that I finally may be able to sort of hear the difference -with the help of esteemed members of course.

 

Since the switch, I've noticed that the guitar is louder, however, there's an added dimension to this increase in volume. Lets' say I "slap" a chord -my ode to the recent thread titles by the way- it seems that the sound emenating from the soundhole has a faster attack, or alternatively, there's less "buildup of volume" vs. before the switch. It's full volume on from the moment I hit the chord.

 

Aghhh........can't explain it with words. I hear something other than just a volume increase. Is that it, this dreaded projection? I need more buzz words for my music store visits.

 

I appologize profusely if I've offended anyone expecting otherwise with the on-topic-ness of this thread.

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New saddle= "focus", IMO. (there's your buzz word) I think it brightens up the mids/high mids.

Projection would mean it "projects" ...right? Kind of launches the sound across the room. I think if a guitar projects, it's causing the sound to go directly out in front of the guitar vs a guitar that's still loud, but the sound eminates from all sides.

That's my take on it. Personaly, I think I prefer eminating over projecting

btw, never buy roundy's asparagus...

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Projection can be perceived, in theory, only by the listener not the player. If you were to play in a narrow short hallway with padded walls down both sides and a smooth reflective surface at the far end of the hallway you might, as a player, get some sense of the projection of the instrument as the sound reflects back at you. That perception though would still be far less than accurate because as the player you'll be hearing the sound of the instrument from the playing position mixed with the projected sound. Also the padded walls will prevent side projection from reflecting back so you wouldn't get a sense of how your guitar projects out to the side angles of the potential audience listening area. In short it probably would be best to pad the wall surface at the far end of the hallway and also the wall behind you so that you would then have a large padded room from which you can serenade the attendants in the white coats who are cleaning and pressing your straight jacket with the gold sequins. :)

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Those are some funny responses, "serenading the attendants.....". That's just too funny.

So let me get this straight - or in this case strait- all these guys that proclaim some guitar really "projecting" are doing so in the corridors of some mental institution with padded walls and such...................I can live with that.

Now as for the "Ass-per-GAS thread".............

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I measure projection by how loudly my wife feels she must talk over my mindless picking when she is bitching at me. :D All my guitars seem to do fine for that small audience of one.

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Originally posted by suprswd

i dislike your posts


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Some day humor, introspection, thoughtfulness, and creative writing may be something that appeals to you and clever retorts may be part of your resume...but obviously not yet. Keep reading you might learn somethin'.:thu:

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Originally posted by Gretsch Fan

I measure projection by how loudly my wife feels she must talk over my mindless picking when she is bitching at me.
:D
All my guitars seem to do fine for that small audience of one.



A good theory! :thu:

BTW - you're lucky! My wife insists I stop playing and listen to her like I'm actually interested! The glazed over look in my eyes apparently conveys NOTHING! ;)

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Do you guys notice that your wives don't have anything to say to you until you pick up your guitar or recording apparatus?

Mine seems to ignore me until that time, then she insists on reading me "War and Peace".

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volume is a measurement of size... projection implies a directional movement...

thats all i got for you man... i can make some more stuff up later though if you need it.

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Here's my half-baked take. Think of an actor on the stage. A well trained one can project her voice so people in the back rows can hear her just as well as those sitting in front. And it's not all about being loud. If it were, the people in front would probably be deaf and the actor would have no voice left by the end of the performance. I don't know how it works, some trick of the diaphram that puts the sound way out front I suppose. Just a thought.

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O.K. JT, that's funny. Seriously though, just trying to make a distinction between projection and volume. Reading your first post above, I think you nailed it the first time.

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