Members Bucky Dude Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 I was reading the HC gear reviews, Zager has about a zillion excellent reviews, are these things that great?
Members Highway_61 Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Yes, all of us own at least one, and we love them.
Members mrlucky7 Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Sorry....just cant stop laughing :D
Members Bucky Dude Posted March 2, 2006 Author Members Posted March 2, 2006 soooo... alrighty then... anyway... how about them dodgers! seriously, I never heard of zager guitars beforeare the reviews from a bunch of zager shills or are they legit? I'm getting an accoustic for my kid but I'm not shelling out for a vintage D28. Just want to get him a good acoustic under a grand
Members rhythmdoctor Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 I've never tried one personally, but the general feeling on this board is that Zager sucks. This has been a hot topic the last several weeks. My suggestion would be to try the following brands for a cheaper dread: AlvarezBlueridge 500 can get you solid wood goodness.
Members catdaddy Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Originally posted by Bucky Goldstein seriously, I never heard of zager guitars beforeare the reviews from a bunch of zager shills or are they legit? If you use the search function you'll discover everything you ever wanted to know about Zager, his guitars, his shills, his undercover agents, his favorite color....well you get the idea. Check out the Godin line of acoustics for your kid. Very good quality Canadian instruments under the headstock names: Seagull, Norman, Simon & Patrick, and Art & Lutherie. Excellent bang for the buck IMO.
Members knockwood Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Originally posted by Bucky Goldstein soooo...alrighty then...anyway... how about them dodgers!seriously, I never heard of zager guitars beforeare the reviews from a bunch of zager shills or are they legit?I'm getting an accoustic for my kid but I'm not shelling out for a vintage D28.Just want to get him a good acoustic under a grand There's some great stuff out there for under a grand. I think most of the advice you'll get here would be to look at the Larrivee 03 series and the Martin 15 and 16 series. I would probably heed that advice. Which specific model to go after would depend on what your son plays. I don't think Zager does much if anything outside of dreadnaughts, so if you're looking for a dread I'd suggest considering a Martin D-15, Martin D-16GT, Larrivee D-03 or D-03R. IMO this is also a very good deal:http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Acoustic?sku=515888 I have a Martin D-1 (discontinued) that I love to no end. The link above is to a git that is nearly identical in construction except that it's all solid wood (my D-1 has lam sides), with rosewood back & sides (my D-1 is mahog) and the binding is different (who cares?). Amazing deal, IMO. There's also a mahogany version for $100 less. Anything in the Godin line (Seagull, Norman, Simon & Patrick, Art & Lutherie) is also worth considering. Zager is a load of crap. Cheap Asian gits with some setup work, lots of far overblown advertising claims about what is merely setup work. You can get a frying pan to play easy if it's set up right, but it'll still sound like a frying pan.
Members Hudman Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Stay away from Zager. Most of those reviews are probably fake. How much money are you looking to spend? You will get a lot of solid suggestions after we know your price range.
Members Dave W. Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Originally posted by knockwood IMO this is also a very good deal:http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Acoustic?sku=515888 So how does MF get away with being so far under the minimum advertised price rule?
Members rjoxyz Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Dave---The D-15 Custom is a model made exclusively for Musician's Friend (I have the mahogany/spruce model--great guitar). They make a similar guitar sold only by GC. Neither appears on Martin's website. The "retail" price in this case means even less than usual as no one else sells the guitar and I doubt Martin even sets the MSRP.
Members knockwood Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Originally posted by Dave W. So how does MF get away with being so far under the minimum advertised price rule? I believe the two D-15 custom models are MF exclusives. Not sure there is an MAP for that kinda stuff.
Members Bucky Dude Posted March 2, 2006 Author Members Posted March 2, 2006 I like that D15 from MF, thanks He's plays alternative stuff and he sits in for a little country now and then whether he likes it or not What about an acoustic electric? thanks
Members mrlucky7 Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Hello sir ! Zagers are really not worth looking into IMHO. It really all depends if your kid already plays guitar, how interested, age etc. For a youngster under about 12, I'd reccomend something like an Art & lutherie for a young bigginer or something else from the Godin line (www.lasido.com) if it is someone just starting over 12. For a kid over 12 that has playing experience, I'd certainly look into Larrivee D or L body and, of course Martin. You can get the top of the line Godins for under a grand also. Good Luck !
Members knockwood Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Originally posted by Bucky Goldstein I like that D15 from MF, thanksHe's plays alternative stuff and he sits in for a little country now and then whether he likes it or notWhat about an acoustic electric?thanks Personally, I'd recommend concentrating on getting a good acoustic for your $ & would worry about adding electronics down the road. First, because you'll know your entire initial monetary investment is going into the quality of the guitar itself. Second, because separating the electronics from the guitar manufacturer will leave you the entire pickup market to choose from if you decide later that a pickup is called for. Just one guy's opinion. And I should add that I virtually never perform live - only because I suck - so I have very little use for pickups.
Members Bucky Dude Posted March 2, 2006 Author Members Posted March 2, 2006 Originally posted by mrlucky7 Hello sir ! Zagers are really not worth looking into IMHO. It really all depends if your kid already plays guitar, how interested, age etc. For a youngster under about 12, I'd reccomend something like an Art & lutherie for a young bigginer or something else from the Godin line ( www.lasido.com) if it is someone just starting over 12. For a kid over 12 that has playing experience, I'd certainly look into Larrivee D or L body and, of course Martin. You can get the top of the line Godins for under a grand also. Good Luck ! He's 16 and a real player He plays my G&L and his strat. For acoustic pieces, he's using an old Takamine that's de-lam'd We had a vintage D28 that I traded for one of Jackson Browne's tour strats. Big mistake, we already had a ton of electrics Thanks, I checked those blue ridge's they look good and are reasonable, any other opinions? Thanks!
Members dboy420 Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 never played them before but from what i have seen they are Sigma gutars marketed as Martin (I believe they are liscenced by Martin) --with a custom setup and a jacked up price.
Members knockwood Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Originally posted by dboy420 never played them before but from what i have seen they are Sigma gutars marketed as Martin (I believe they are liscenced by Martin) --with a custom setup and a jacked up price. Just to clarify, this would refer to Zager, not Blueridge. Blueridge makes good guitars, IMO. I just think they carry too much bling, and I am seriously baffled by their bizarre choice in tuning peg layout. If you look at their gits in person, the pegs are positioned so that the 5th string tends to mash right across the windings of the 6th string, etc. Easy thing to correct when they created the specs for the headstock and I can't figure out why they didn't. The weird positioning would be a big pain in the ass if you need to change a string without changing the whole set, and I'd imagine it might cause tuning issues as well. In your search, definitely don't count out the Larrivee 03 series either.
Members guit30 Posted March 2, 2006 Members Posted March 2, 2006 Alvarez RD20SC http://www.alvarezgtr.com/productpage.htm?CatID=43 About $329 for this acoustic electric with a killer neckJim imo, Alvarez much better quality than Blue Ridge
Members flatshooter Posted March 27, 2006 Members Posted March 27, 2006 I own a Zager ZAD-50CE. For $500 it's as good as any other. But why listen to me. There's so many other highly qualified people out there that have never seen or played one.
Members mrlucky7 Posted March 27, 2006 Members Posted March 27, 2006 Hmm....first time poster......getting hit with a major flashback
Members knockwood Posted March 27, 2006 Members Posted March 27, 2006 Originally posted by flatshooter But why listen to me. Good point.
Members Hudman Posted March 27, 2006 Members Posted March 27, 2006 I own 2 dozen Zagers. I'm going to buy another dozen or so later today. Ummmm.... Zagers, you can't have just one.....
Members SusanV Posted March 27, 2006 Members Posted March 27, 2006 I guess when my son outgrows his zager 3/4, I won't be selling it on this board.
Members Hudman Posted March 27, 2006 Members Posted March 27, 2006 Originally posted by flatshooter I own a Zager ZAD-50CE. For $500 it's as good as any other. But why listen to me. There's so many other highly qualified people out there that have never seen or played one. I agree brother. The EZ Play method is ground breaking stuff. Who would ever thought that setting up a guitar properly could improve it's playability and tone? Mr. Zager is pure genius.
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