The TRUTH hurts

[Greyson Peddie]

Therefore Hudman apparently felt the need to delete his thread in which I spoke my opinions. You see, people like Hudman (who appears to be a nice person & positive contributor to this forum) don't like to be told that they're in the wrong. Jasmine Tea most certainly doesn't like to hear this. The difference between the two is that Jasmine Tea doesn't have the sense to control his foul mouth, while Hudman just gets plain bent if you disagree with him.

While I stated my opinion that this forum once was a place to be proud of, I mean't that wholeheartily. That shouldn't get anybody excited. It's when I pointed out the truth how this place has since decayed. The TRUTH hurts! I never once lost my temper or my sense of verbal decency even when I was labeled as a troll due to my low post count. I realize that's how posters can be addressed as soon as they don't agree with the few members that think they own this forum. Incidentally, not that I feel the need to defend this, but a few months ago when they made changes here at HC, I logged on to discover several hundred of my posts were not accounted for. That's neither here nor there.

As far as Hudman telling me earlier that I could be part of the solution or the problem, I choose not to swim in this toilet. After all the floatin s**t I've seen, I prefer to post on either Acoustic Player Magazine or Acoustic Guitar Forum. You won't see Jasmine Tea or Hudman pushing their brand of crap at either one of those forums. Or at least if they do, you can be sure they won't be there for long. For those interested in acoustic discussion without dysfunction, you should check these forums out:

 

www.acousticplayermagazine.com/forum

 

www.acousticguitarforum.com

 

There; now I can feel better knowing that I've been as honest as possible along with making a positive contribution.

 

Peace,

 

GP

[Chubby Checker]

REPORTED:mad:

[brothertupelo]

you missed the point, once again...

[JasmineTea]

The mods deleted it most likely. I don't think Hud would if he could.

 

Try deleting your own thread. It does'nt work, not for me anyway.

[nylon rock]

In a broader context, none of this "bickering" matters in the least.

 

In a week, new topics will arise, people fall into their normal routines, we all get side tracked one way or another.

 

For most of us, we log on and look for threads that pertain to what interests us, specifically, acoustic guitar playing, and how to get more out of it. It is only when our lives are in a lull that we open threads like this, and only out of curiosity.

[hrhodes3]

he cant delete posts

[hrhodes3]

I had several deleted due to profanity just report offensive posts and they get deleted. No one knows who they are.

[JasmineTea]

 

Originally posted by Greyson Peddie The TRUTH hurts!

Truth is a double egded sword, my friend. Cuts both ways. Those who wield it are usualy quite humbled by it because it has a tendency to cut in unexpected ways.

 

My messege to you is the same now as it was before: If you don't like off-topic posts, don't make them. If you don't like off-topic threads (like this thread), don't start them.

 

Not to mention you can scroll past posts that don't interest you.

 

I think we'd all love to get back to guitar-talk, but people keep posting these argumentive, finger-pointing things. Some of us feel compelled to counterpoint those finger-pointers. I think the way in which these counteroints are made is perfectly fitting.

 

You're not contributing anything good to the forum by starting an argument like this. You're doing exactly what you're accusing others of.

[AndrewGG]

I`m not getting involved in this because I havent read whats been going but why should a low post count mean anything other than few posts? Its the quality of what is being said which is important, not the quantity.

My post count sank to zero recently because of a major computer screw up and I would hate to think I would be considered a troll for posting strongly held opinions.

Disagreements and arguments-without name calling and insults-are constructive, stimulating and make for an interesting forum.

It would be a much more dull place if we all agreed with each other.

Peace and love:)

[Tony Burns]

This is a unique situation because people can say and do just about anything- having respect for all people reguardless of what they believe or say sometimes is hard - ive bitten my tounge more than once because i think of this community as family- You love Guitars, I love guitars ( all guitars ) and i think we have to respect each others feelings . ive been hammered on a few times , I think thats OK - even saying you dont like what i have to say is OK, or saying one of my guitars stinks ( thats OK too ) i hope we dont have the same tastes, The guitars i like, would be roo exspensive for me to buy if you were buying them too .

[hrhodes3]

well said

[Queequeg]

This is a public sandbox.

 

1.) Don't throw sand.

2.) Keep the cats out.

 

There's room for everybody here, except those bent on making mischief.

 

A pre-emptive strike of peace is seldom a bad thing.

[DonK]

[dadgad7]

Hi Don

 

trying to keep things light here!

[knockwood]

 

Originally posted by AndrewGG I`m not getting involved in this because I havent read whats been going but why should a low post count mean anything other than few posts? Its the quality of what is being said which is important, not the quantity. My post count sank to zero recently because of a major computer screw up and I would hate to think I would be considered a troll for posting strongly held opinions. Disagreements and arguments-without name calling and insults-are constructive, stimulating and make for an interesting forum. It would be a much more dull place if we all agreed with each other. Peace and love:)

 

 

I don't think it's the low post count by itself that set off the Troll Alarm, but the low post count in conjunction with the rather combative commentary and the fact that this poster had been a registered forumite for approximately four years. Adding to this the mournful references to the erstwhile zero-tolerance, iron-fisted days of the forum, the impression it gave me - and others, evidently - was that either (1) this is someone who doesn't post often himself but who nonetheless seems pretty quick to launch a general attack when he feels those doing the work to actually do so themselves are not sufficiently entertaining; or (2) this is a well-known forumite posting under a disposable alias to facilitate getting away with being insulting, which would be quite cowardly and more than a little nutty.

 

I will admit I had not considered the possibility that some forumites' post counts may have been diminished due to a glitch although, strangely, I've been frequenting the forum pretty regularly now for about a year and a half and have no recollection of this particular poster prior to the last few days' incendiary remarks.

 

Strongly held opinions are one thing. Unbeckoned insults are another thing entirely and will ordinarily be met in kind in this environment. The mere absence of direct name-calling and/or profanity (not that these were entirely absent) does not translate to an absence of insult, nor to the maintenance of one's "verbal decency." Content is more significant than packaging. This entire thread, initiated as a personal swipe at two individuals, is ludicrous on numerous levels - beginning with the fact that it was posted by someone whose primary complaint is ostensibly the prevalence of off-topic posts in this forum... Thankfully, I am a fan of all things ludicrous so I don't mind wasting a few minutes posting in this thread.

 

Ultimately I'm not disagreeing with you about the post count thing. I don't think people here automaticaly equate few posts with Trollhood. It's low posts coupled with insults, however cleverly or clumsily disguised by "verbal decency," that make people a little suspicious.

[DonK]

Originally posted by dadgad7 Hi Don trying to keep things light here!

 

Hi back

 

It's a bit hard to keep things light when one person proclaims to have the "truth". It's like hearing a politician start a sentence with, "the fact of the matter is....", as if what's about to be said is indisputable. Most people who preface their remarks by claiming truth or fact follow up with neither.

[hrhodes3]

I tend to be a Well I know this type of person. I am just lazy when it comes to giving background sometimes about how I arrived at my Opinion

[Chirpy_72]

Can't we just let all this die ???

 

No need to keep picking at scabs.

 

I for one am sorry that I let anger control my typing fingers.

 

 

Let's get back to something more civilized, like politics ... err I mean guitars.

[allthumz]

Please! All of you with nothing better to do, stop trying to decide who's right or wrong. Talk guitars. I want to learn from you not participate in a pissing match.

 

If you have nothing to contribute then lurk and read. Stop crapping in our forum.

 

- Robert

[7and7is]

come on guys, I'm sure that instead of arguing on this message board and trying to come up with clever posts in order to make ourselves feel vindicated, that we all actually have better things to do. like worry about how we are going to put food on the table and planning summer camping trips and deciding which guitar will sound best in front of the fire.. or whatever you dig.

 

or we can all keep pretending that internet = serious business!

 

c'mon boys. crack open a cold one (hopefully a dark one!) and just say cheers.

[Chirpy_72]

Originally posted by 7and7is c'mon boys. crack open a cold one (hopefully a dark one!) and just say cheers.

 

 

 

That sounds racist to me

[7and7is]

it's only racist cause I was talking about Irish beers, and by that I mean superior beers.

 

[DenverDave]

Originally posted by 7and7is it's only racist cause I was talking about Irish beers, and by that I mean superior beers.

 

Ahhh....Guinness - just what the doctor ordered. Guinness, acoustic guitar of your choice, and a covered patio....

[Hudman]

I didn't delete anything. Why would I? It was my thread. The thread was an attempt to stop stuff like this current thread.

 

For the record, I made the suggestion that Greyson Peddie should visit the APM Forum if he missed the "old HC forum" and Little Brother (Doug Jones). I also informed him that I am a member at APM too. He got bent out of shape and called me a bully.

 

Now what is he doing? More mud slinging AND suggesting that people should visit the APM and AGM forums.

 

Funny, I'm a bully when I made a similiar suggestion, he is the forum savior when he does it.

 

Is he a troll?

 

Let's review: He came out of no where and made a slam post against this forum (crying about how bad it is now that Little Brother left) and he started a slam thread against the forum, Jasmine Tea and myself.

 

Hmmmm?

[7and7is]

with all the "troll" talk it sounds like a Salem witch trial...