Acoustic pickups...why don't they....

[nip]

I like the idea of the K&K pickups with many sensors.

 

But in this case they place all sensors within the bridge plate.

 

Why isn't there a pickup system where you place these in a little more places in the top, and have a mixer to ballance sound to whatever you prefer?

 

 

Are there any luthier's that are doing it that way?

 

Maybe using K&K and just placing them elsewhere on the top.

 

I've seen combination with different audio microphones withing the guitar body and such, but why not do the contact sensor thing?

 

 

I had an unmiked Ovation and place this piezo in very different places with different results. A little more boomy sound, and more clear and bright. The very best would be to mix these parts to you own liking.

 

Thanks.

[tiger roach]

The Taylor T5 does that, kinda, as I understand their propoganda. I haven't played one myself though.

I agree with you though, it seems like that is an approach that has been under-utilized so far.

[nip]

Originally posted by tiger roach The Taylor T5 does that, kinda, as I understand their propoganda. I haven't played one myself though. I agree with you though, it seems like that is an approach that has been under-utilized so far.

 

 

I this what I read so much about, the expression system of Taylor?

[babablowfish]

Take a look at the K&K Trinity Western system. It combines 3 under-saddle pickups with a goose-neck condensor mic that you can adjust for optimal location. The 2 sources are fed into a pre-amp. I am thinking about getting this system because the undersaddle Piezo pickups I have heard just don't sound natural to me.

[nip]

Originally posted by babablowfish Take a look at the K&K Trinity Western system. It combines 3 under-saddle pickups with a goose-neck condensor mic that you can adjust for optimal location. The 2 sources are fed into a pre-amp. I am thinking about getting this system because the undersaddle Piezo pickups I have heard just don't sound natural to me.

Thanks, yes it looks interesting. And you can start with the pure system, and then later buy the upgrade package if you feel the need.

What seems difficult is that you have to fasten the pickup in the soundboard you are to pick up audio from. Must be a difficult task to do that without picking both vibrations and audio(thinking of microphone stand and a floor).

So the preamp mixer is there, then you could maybe use three extra pure sensors instead of the mic, if the preamp interfaces well with the sensors also. This way you would get less difference in sound from one time to another. I get the feeling it condenser would be out of place if the guitarcase hit too hard into something in transport.

With the outboard sensor on my Ovation I got pretty good balanced tone in the area where an electric guitar have volumeknobs usually. So glueing a set of pure sensors in that area might be interesting. With two pickups there is always the danger of phase problems, but could easily be taken care of by preamp inputs stage or just switching polarity of the cables.

I think the Fishman has a soundboard combination also:
http://www.fishman.com/support/techtips.asp?id=18

[zb0430]

The T5 is an entirely different beast than the expression system. The exoression system uses one string sensor with overlapping magnetic fields under the Taylor NT neck blended with two body sensors mounted at different spots on the sound board. The only drawback I can see is that Taylor's design of having only 3 small knobs and saving the nice aesthetic look of the guitar has left no way to re-blend the levels of the body sensors vs. the string sensor. You're somewhat stuck with a factory determined level. Mind you, those guys know what they're doing, and I'm very pleased thus far with mine.

I'm starting to sound like a serious fanboy... yikes...