Members zakkemg Posted December 9, 2006 Members Posted December 9, 2006 anybody ever seen or played one of these? http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/msg/246053428.html seems like a pretty good deal..?
Members Bert Posted December 9, 2006 Members Posted December 9, 2006 Description says its like new condition...Taks are excellent guitars and a good value for the money. Most of Nashville can't be wrong by playing them. The deal appears to be quite a bargain. I would jump all over it if I needed one. bd:thu:
Members thisgoesto11 Posted December 9, 2006 Members Posted December 9, 2006 They are pretty nice, I almost bought one but I went with a Larrivee for a little more cash. I'd offer him $450 and call it a deal.
Members Freeman Keller Posted December 9, 2006 Members Posted December 9, 2006 My rule of thumb is that since you can usually get up to 40 percent off the new price of a guitar at the big online dealer, if the list price was really, lets call it a grand, you should be able to buy an new one with warranty for 600. The most I would pay for a guitar in like new condition without a warranty (especially a 12 string) would be 50 percent of list - or 500. If it has any structural issues (many 12's do) I would negotiate from there. So if it is what you want (a maple Tak jumbo cutaway) it would be a reasonable deal. But personally, maple is not a wood I would want for a 12 (have you heard or played one).
Members Cripes Posted December 10, 2006 Members Posted December 10, 2006 Maple jumbo 12 strings=brushed symbols. The Guild f-412 I just gave away was ear-splitting brash-sounding and drowned out anyone and everyone sitting in on a session. It was a guitar for reaching people in the {censored}ty seats unplugged. Very, very nice guitar but it was bright and very loud. Justin Hayward of the Moody Blues plays the same guitar in the song Question and it doesn't have any visible electrics hooked up. I can't imagine the Tak being all that different. I would go for a warmer wood and smaller body if I was to buy a 12 again.
Members Freeman Keller Posted December 10, 2006 Members Posted December 10, 2006 Originally posted by Cripes I would go for a warmer wood and smaller body if I was to buy a 12 again. Bingo!
Members zakkemg Posted December 10, 2006 Author Members Posted December 10, 2006 he never emailed me back anyways... I really do want a 12er though...Guild would be very nice.. Ill see what GC has for used...and haggle
Members ihateyouguys Posted December 10, 2006 Members Posted December 10, 2006 I think I've seen the same model sold as a b-stock at a local store for about 100 or 200 less. Could be the guy bought one of the b-stock guitars for cheap and is trying to make a buck.
Members Freeman Keller Posted December 10, 2006 Members Posted December 10, 2006 Zak, hang around the 12 String Cafe' a bit - there are some pretty neat folks that come around. Even some old fart who made one at home 12 String Cafe'
Members zakkemg Posted December 11, 2006 Author Members Posted December 11, 2006 Originally posted by Freeman Keller Zak, hang around the 12 String Cafe' a bit - there are some pretty neat folks that come around. Even some old fart who made one at home12 String Cafe' thanks Freeman... On a side note, I went to GC today to see what they have and noodle around..I played a Breedlove 12 string ($699) and the cheaper no-frills Martin D12X1 ($599).. I tell you what...I loved that Martin tone...real loud and bright..and real nice action But the cheap sides and back worries me a little...should that bother me if I love the tone and playability? I mostly only play in my house anyways... by the way, could GC be more of a zoo atmosphere? they have $2000 Gibsons laying around just waiting to be nicked up or knocked over by kids and tons of people wailing away at high volumes...not a real nice play to try out gear... At least the acoustic section is a little more suited for playing
Members Freeman Keller Posted December 11, 2006 Members Posted December 11, 2006 Zak, play as many as you can. As a finger picker I am drawn to slightly smaller bodies than a dread - a jumbo or GA or my little OM is more to my liking. If you are a strummer or singer/song writer you might like the dread more - I was at a little private concert last night and the singer made his old Tak dread sound pretty sweet (I may just have to sell him my Martin). There is absolutely nothing wrong with the HPL body on the DX series - the tops are solid spruce and that is what generates most of the sound. But if possible play one next to an all wood one and see what you think. The MT neck joint might actually be an advantage over the DT if (and when) it comes time for a reset. If you can, play a couple of Guilds and a Taylor 12 for reference. I don't have a lot of experience with the Guilds but they get very high marks from everyone that plays them. In your price range you might be able to find a used Taylor 355 - I personally think that is one of the best bang for the buck 12's out there today. Forumite Terry Hall has both Guilds and a 355 and I have his cd's - they sound pretty good to my ears. Another moderately priced 12 that gets high marks is the Seagull S12+. Unusual for a 12 in that it is cedar topped, but forumite Eppito has one and, again, I've heard in on some cd's and it roars. The Martin J12-17 (I think is the model) gets a lot of attention at the Cafe' - I've played a couple in stores and was moderately impressed. All mahogany sounded pretty cool playing old blues. Last, but far from least, be very careful if you decide to buy a used one. Check the neck angle carefully, obviously the action, and look for any structural issues (bridge pulling up, bulging lower bout, etc). I would be particularly careful about guitars 20 or so years old - many have very high actions that is very expensive to fix. But, OMG, they are wonderful beasts - the Grand Pianos of the guitar world. My babies - all 24 strings
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