Members I-like2play Posted March 15, 2010 Members Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hi guys, I'm working on a project tele and i just had this idea for a finish. I noticed on my buddies Ibanez Jem Floral that the pattern is a fabric on the guitar that was clear coated over. I'm thinking i'd like to do this on my tele and also on the face of my amp so they match. Anybody have a good idea of how to go about doing this. What adhesive to use between the wood and fabric? What to use for clear coat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tomm Williams Posted March 15, 2010 Members Share Posted March 15, 2010 To coat over any type of fabric would require a very thick coat. I've never seen a guitar done like this so if Ibanez has a way of doing this without spraying a 1/4" thick coat of clear, I wouldn't know where to begin. Is it actually fabric or a graphic that looks like fabric?. Attaching the fabric to the body could probably be done with any spray adhesive. I could see this turning into a huge mess. If you pull this off, post some pics and your procedure. TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Average_Joe Posted March 15, 2010 Members Share Posted March 15, 2010 My first thought would be a clear epoxy resin. Just do it like laying fiberglass in a mold. Put on a thick coat of epoxy on the wood, lay the cloth on it, and then put a good thick layer of resin again over the top of it. You'd want it thick enough to sand and buff without sanding down into the fabric. And probably want to try it on some scrap wood first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Azazael Posted March 15, 2010 Members Share Posted March 15, 2010 Are you thinking about this guitar?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ErikHoppy Posted March 16, 2010 Members Share Posted March 16, 2010 http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/mat.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted March 16, 2010 Members Share Posted March 16, 2010 Check that recent bass cab thread. He used old blue jeans with good success. He just used good old Elmer's type white glue thinned down a bit. I think that would make a way cool Tele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wartoxin Posted March 16, 2010 Members Share Posted March 16, 2010 I knew this reminded me of tsomething, I had to search :: It is based on the classic Talman models that Noodles of The Offspring has played since 1993. Its basswood body is hand wrapped in duct tape and finished in high-gloss poly, so each guitar is individually unique. http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-NDM1-Noodles-Signature-Guitar?sku=519724 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PanaDP Posted March 16, 2010 Members Share Posted March 16, 2010 I hope you're not a proponent of the "thin finishes are best" theory. Even covering silk would require a thicker finish than all but the sloppiest companies would normally apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nickeroo Posted March 16, 2010 Members Share Posted March 16, 2010 Here's two I did. Unfinished: Teles are best for beginners. It's actually a very pleasant finishing process, quite easy and not as pesky as rattle cans. I made a big thread about one of these projects on here. The project guitar tutorial covers the basics. A guy on the Electric forum here saw the thread and made his own Tele/Thinline using the same idea. The guitars above are shine-ier in real life. For adhesive PVA glue works fine. Some people use "Decoupage paste". For clearcoat it actually depends on your country/where you live, and perhaps if you have done it before. Acrylic (1-pac) works ok. Car spray paint basically. Any durable coat, like urethane or acyrlic clear coats, I would recommend. Not too sure about Nitro. If you need any more tips just ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members krankensteiner Posted March 30, 2010 Members Share Posted March 30, 2010 http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/mat.htm +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I-like2play Posted April 1, 2010 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2010 Cool thanks for the replies guys. I'v got some projects on the table now but i'l be sure to post when i get around to finishing my tele. Now who can make me a red cobra waterslide decal for the headstock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stinky Baire Posted April 9, 2010 Members Share Posted April 9, 2010 The fiberglass resin idea that AverageJoe had would work well. The stuff you can buy at an auto parts house has a slight greenish tint to it though. You can find clear resin elsewhere. Saturate the cloth, put a layer on the guitar (mask off anything you don't want messy) and use a brush to work out all air bubbles. Then, like Joe said, put a thick enough layer of resin on top so that it can be sanded and buffed without scuffing the fabric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goosefartfan Posted April 19, 2010 Members Share Posted April 19, 2010 Here's two I did. You rule! I really don't like Tele's, but that black one you did just might convert me (of course, they still sound terrible:poke:) How in the world did you apply the fabric and keep the binding perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nickeroo Posted April 20, 2010 Members Share Posted April 20, 2010 You rule! I really don't like Tele's, but that black one you did just might convert me (of course, they still sound terrible:poke:) How in the world did you apply the fabric and keep the binding perfect? Hi goosefartfan Well I did it all backwards and would probably not do it the same way again. What I did was apply fabric to unrouted front, and then we (me + friend) used a router fitted with a tip from stewmac's calibrated binding tip selection, (you can pick from specific width of channels etc). Then I glued binding with superglue of all things (do not recommend at all!). Then I blasted with a whole lot of clear coat from a can, probably did not spray enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goosefartfan Posted April 20, 2010 Members Share Posted April 20, 2010 oh, you put on the binding after the fabric:idea: for your next project, may I suggest you paste on a pic of your avatar on a guitar? nobody will care what kind of guitar, it's color, wood, scale length, or whose pickups are on it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nickeroo Posted April 20, 2010 Members Share Posted April 20, 2010 I will definitely consider it. I am sure Amy (girl in the pic) would like it and most guys in an audience, but FMIC may get annoyed and sue me or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MahaloVision Posted April 20, 2010 Members Share Posted April 20, 2010 Might want to consider vacuum bagging if it's a solid body. Suck all the air out. Probably not a good idea for a semi-hollow as it's 14lbs per square inch. It might be worth looking at having a print shop or Kinko's print a design to plastic film and laminating that on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vavaihaleni Posted February 11, 2013 Members Share Posted February 11, 2013 http://www.ehow.com/how_5875674_cover-guitar-fabric.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sandro Feliciano Posted June 2, 2013 Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 Helllo, i just wanna take the ride on this topic because i am actually doing the same thing over my snare drum ( covering with a very nice thin fabric ). And i have some issues which clear coat ( gloss to use it. ) I tried a few different brands and supposed to be the best ones out there, and none of then drys 100 %...it kind soft dry. Not to soft though, but soft enough to be scratch with a finger nail, even though you got to press kind of hard but it does scratch it ..So, i wanna join your topic over here to find out something that can solve the problem..I have checked with lots of professionals such as home depot, Osh, and idustrial workers and nobody has a clear answer about it. the best sugestion was some kind o resign which is not that great because the drum is a round surface and it would hard to get a really good artistic finishing with a paint brush ( better with spray )..And o top of that, it can't be that thick because i need a thin area for the drumhead to fit and get in tune..Anwyay, if you find some kind of clue please would you mind sharing with me?thanksSANDRO FELICIANOsandrofeliciano.comnogueiradrums@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sandro Feliciano Posted June 2, 2013 Members Share Posted June 2, 2013 Helllo, i just wanna take the ride on this topic because i am actually doing the same thing over my snare drum ( covering with a very nice thin fabric ). And i have some issues which clear coat ( gloss to use it. ) I tried a few different brands and supposed to be the best ones out there, and none of then drys 100 %...it kind soft dry. Not to soft though, but soft enough to be scratch with a finger nail, even though you got to press kind of hard but it does scratch it ..So, i wanna join your topic over here to find out something that can solve the problem..I have checked with lots of professionals such as home depot, Osh, and idustrial workers and nobody has a clear answer about it. the best sugestion was some kind o resign which is not that great because the drum is a round surface and it would hard to get a really good artistic finishing with a paint brush ( better with spray )..And o top of that, it can't be that thick because i need a thin area for the drumhead to fit and get in tune..Anyway, i very much appreciate if you could give some kind of clue about which clear coat to use that dry hard..Please would you mind sharing with me? thanks SANDRO FELICIANOsandrofeliciano.comnogueiradrums@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tvvoodoo Posted June 15, 2013 Members Share Posted June 15, 2013 Just finished my first fabric finish, but I've also done a paper finish in the past too. I used Sanding sealer to glue on the fabric. Just sized it, soaked it in and plopped it on. The thing is, you need to pick a sanding sealer that will dry hard. The one I used is not as firm as I wish it could be. Then no matter how many layers of lacquer or poly you put on, it will still be soft. Next time, and there will be a next time, I'll be using weldbond watered down about 60\% to 40\% water. Stay away from the recommended modge podge. it is not good, and never gets hard enough and sands terribly - and if you want to undertake a fabric finish, you will do a LOT Of level sanding. You can see more in my DIY thread here... Area 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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