Members guit30 Posted August 2, 2007 Members Posted August 2, 2007 I used to have a Boss CE5 Chorus for my acoustic and gave it to a friend, I think it is a nice subtle effect for acoustic guitar, so I just got another to help use a credit that MF gave me, sounds great Jim :wave:
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted August 2, 2007 Members Posted August 2, 2007 cool... I have a Roland JC-77 with built in chorus. It kinda gives a cool 12 string effect.OGP
Members DenverDave Posted August 2, 2007 Members Posted August 2, 2007 Acoustics sound great with a chorus if is is used subtly. I've heard too many people go overboard with them though and the acoustic tone gets too muddy - especially in a group situation. Used right it is a very sweet tone!
Members Fuzzbomb20 Posted August 11, 2007 Members Posted August 11, 2007 I dont like using any effects on acoustic, maybe a little reverb if the room is very dry or full. Even when I was young and didn't play guitar I thought that the sound of chorus was inherantly cheesy and synth sounding. A lot of the tone from early winham hill style fingerpickers makes me cringe like crazy- especially as most of the were recording with amazing gutiars.I would only chorus it if my fundamental tone was bad and I needed to cover up of thicken an amplified tone. Live I use a fishman rare earth blend with seperate E.Q. for the mag and mic. It sounds full and natural so I would not really consider making it sound like an effected electric.
Members notebene Posted August 11, 2007 Members Posted August 11, 2007 I think tonal nuances on one's performance can be a good thing. I approach effects like chorusing (I use one) like a spice in cooking (I cook). It is not the only tonal technique at one's disposal: how you pick, how you shape your nails, and how much you smooth them, the angle of attack, etc will effect your tone. Moving your hand closer to the bridge makes a brighter sound. Revoicing chords in a different part of the neck changes the tone. Tapping, slapping, artificial harmonics, two handed fretting are all 'effects' at a guitarist's disposal. And these are not new: they have been used by European classical guitarists going back to the 16th century or earlier. Like good drummers, or pipe organ players (I play both), changing up the sound creates a freshness. But it is not all about tricks. One has to have the creative chops and the musical gift within as well. There are a lot of players who have very good sounding, expensive guitars, but inadequate technique -- not just left hand technique (most guitarists concentrate on left hand technique, but don't consider what good right hand technique can do to make one a really good player. Consider players like Michael Hedges, Phil Keaggy, Pierre Bensusan, Leo Kottke, or Laurence Juber. They all use effects, and have GREAT hand technique, and a great sense of song. Its a complete package. A complete package. Chorus effects? By all means: but consider the whole universe of nuance that is available to a guitarist in both his gear, and in his hands. SMF
Members Terry Allan Hall Posted August 11, 2007 Members Posted August 11, 2007 I think tonal nuances on one's performance can be a good thing. I approach effects like chorusing (I use one) like a spice in cooking (I cook). It is not the only tonal technique at one's disposal: how you pick, how you shape your nails, and how much you smooth them, the angle of attack, etc will effect your tone. Moving your hand closer to the bridge makes a brighter sound. Revoicing chords in a different part of the neck changes the tone. Tapping, slapping, artificial harmonics, two handed fretting are all 'effects' at a guitarist's disposal. And these are not new: they have been used by European classical guitarists going back to the 16th century or earlier. Like good drummers, or pipe organ players (I play both), changing up the sound creates a freshness. But it is not all about tricks. One has to have the creative chops and the musical gift within as well. There are a lot of players who have very good sounding, expensive guitars, but inadequate technique -- not just left hand technique (most guitarists concentrate on left hand technique, but don't consider what good right hand technique can do to make one a really good player. Consider players like Michael Hedges, Phil Keaggy, Pierre Bensusan, Leo Kottke, or Laurence Juber. They all use effects, and have GREAT hand technique, and a great sense of song. Its a complete package. A complete package. Chorus effects? By all means: but consider the whole universe of nuance that is available to a guitarist in both his gear, and in his hands. SMF Absolute agreement!
Members Fuzzbomb20 Posted August 11, 2007 Members Posted August 11, 2007 In my opinion some of the quite heavy chorus used by Michael Hedges, Phil Keaggy and Pierre Bensusan (earlier in his career) detract from technique and tone due to the homogenisation of the effected sound. Then again it is all down to personal preference
Members guit30 Posted August 11, 2007 Author Members Posted August 11, 2007 I totally agree and after getting 3 bad chorus pedals in a row from MF , I decided it wasn't needed. There is so much you can do to manipulate the sound with your left hand on the fretboard and also how you pick or whatever. I do like a taste of compression, just sweetens things up, As the quote for great compression, lowers the louder parts and loudens the quieter parts. J
Members notebene Posted August 12, 2007 Members Posted August 12, 2007 I totally agree and after getting 3 bad chorus pedals in a row from MF , I decided it wasn't needed. There is so much you can do to manipulate the sound with your left hand on the fretboard and also how you pick or whatever.I do like a taste of compression, just sweetens things up, As the quote for great compression, lowers the louder parts and loudens the quieter parts. J I agree. I use a bit of compression too (off my rack: Berhinger Comperessor Pro - two channel), and like it for fingerstyle playing. I think the trick to compression is: if you detect it, you're using too much. I try and keep that balance though and I like how it enhances my performance. SMF
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