Members knockwood Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 All right, so a recent mini-rash of GJ posts/links has left me wanting to hear more. Not a genre with which I'm at all familiar, though. Would be grateful for any artist/recording suggestions. I ordered this on half.com this evening... http://www.amazon.com/Nuits-Manouche-Best-Gypsy-Jazz/dp/B000A2QJJE/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1199665449&sr=8-2 Blind purchase, though - couldn't upload any of the clips. And I have the "Sweet and Lowdown" soundtrack... But that's it.
Members Stackabones Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 That one looks good. Give us a review when it comes in. Couple of easy Django buys ... Blue Note Compilation or Verve Compilation. I got those when I first started and I still like them as quick go-to discs to put in the car. Now, I have a bunch of Django. No need to get anymore. But I do like to find other cool GJ/GJ-related discs like Romane & Stochelo Rosenberg's Double Jeu and Thomas Dutronc's new one. Speaking of soundtracks, The Triplets of Belleville is a blast. The flick is really cool.
Members knockwood Posted January 7, 2008 Author Members Posted January 7, 2008 That one looks good. Give us a review when it comes in. Couple of easy Django buys ... Blue Note Compilation or Verve Compilation. I got those when I first started and I still like them as quick go-to discs to put in the car. Now, I have a bunch of Django. No need to get anymore. But I do like to find other cool GJ/GJ-related discs like Romane & Stochelo Rosenberg's Double Jeu and Thomas Dutronc's new one. Speaking of soundtracks, The Triplets of Belleville is a blast. The flick is really cool. Thanks, Stack! Gonna keep a list together and hunt stuff down bit by bit - will probably pick up the Blue Note Compilation this evening (if I can get through the purchase without waking up my napping wife who is a few feet away and not fond of my impulse-buying habits [although at least it's not another guitar!]). I'd forgotten about Stephane Grappelli - had seen some youtube vids of him playing with Django some time ago and was completely blown away.
Members gthom Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 I think Django's the place to start, then stuff like the Rosenberg Trio. I'm only just starting to get into the gypsy stuff myself, so any more recommendations would be awesome.
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 All right, so a recent mini-rash of GJ posts/links has left me wanting to hear more. Not a genre with which I'm at all familiar, though. Would be grateful for any artist/recording suggestions. I ordered this on half.com this evening... http://www.amazon.com/Nuits-Manouche-Best-Gypsy-Jazz/dp/B000A2QJJE/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1199665449&sr=8-2 Blind purchase, though - couldn't upload any of the clips. And I have the "Sweet and Lowdown" soundtrack... But that's it. Definately anything Django recorded with the Hot Club Du France in the 1930's. That CD compilation you ordered looks like a good place to start. I am like you guys in that I know only Django and have just recently gotten into The Rosenberg Trio after seeing their videos on YouTube. I basically punched in the words "Gypsy Jazz" and and well over a 1000 videos popped up. I have been slowly going through them and Dorado Schmitt is a fellow that I like a lot mostly for his tone and phrasing. Romane is another highly acclaimed player and he has instructional videos out too. I like these guys because they always look so relaxed and like they are having a great time while they play.
Members simplygoodmusic Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 Yes, Bireli Lagrene is a must! Pick up at least one of the two first gipsy project cd. Knock, there are no "musts". Gypsy Jazz has evolved loads in the last couple of years. Stuff like the Romane and Stochelo Rosenberg duo is nothing short of amazing, but is by no means the same sound as the Django one. There are also a great amount of "lesser known" amazing gypsy jazz musicians. http://www.hotclub.co.uk/shop/acatalog/CD_s_by_Gypsy_Jazz_artists.html Here is a good list, though. Gypsy jazz is a whole world of its own, and I just cant bring myself to suggest any small number of artists without feeling like I'm leaving stuff out. So take your pick. Hint: Take a look at more then just guitar players, even if thats all you want to hear. There are great guitar players working alongside and hiding behind other instrumentalists.
Members knockwood Posted January 7, 2008 Author Members Posted January 7, 2008 Thanks a million for all the suggestions. My employer has unfortunately had the foresight to firewall YouTube... Before I left home this morning, though, I did have a chance to watch some Bireli Lagrene and Stochelo Rosenberg vids... Absolutely amazing stuff. I'm beginning to get that hooked feeling.
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 Here are a couple of Canadian Gypsy Jazz groups: Van Django: www.vandjango.com Duane Andrews: www.duaneandrews.ca Both sites have very nice downloadable clips to sample from their CD's. I really enjoyed what I heard and since they are Canadian I thought I'd give them a plug. You can order CD's direct from them.
Members Queequeg Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 I highly recommend:Angelo Debarre (from France)alsoJohn Jorgenson (from Nashville, erstwhile of California)I have met both of these players and have seen them perform live.Stunning. Both of them. Simply stunning.
Members simplygoodmusic Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 Yep...Just got Angelo Debarre's "Paroles de swing" a week ago. Very unusual, but very good!
Members Taylor Davis Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 Gypsy jazz is the stuff. These new leads about GJ are very welcome. I have listened to a LOT of DJANGO AND STEPHANE and I'm absolutely mesmerized by some of those musics. I do GEORGIA ON MY MINDE because of DJANGO. I found that olde recording of him and stephane and a black chick who was singing. I do MY EVERGREEN because of GJ. I've said it before and I'll type it now: everything turns to Jazz if you play long enough. There's no way around it. Jazz is.
Members knockwood Posted January 7, 2008 Author Members Posted January 7, 2008 Here's a dumb question. For the longest time, when I heard Gypsy Jazz being played I assumed I was hearing nylon. But I don't think that's what I'm seeing when I stare at the wee YouTube images. What are these guys playing on?
Members Stackabones Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 Here's a dumb question. For the longest time, when I heard Gypsy Jazz being played I assumed I was hearing nylon. But I don't think that's what I'm seeing when I stare at the wee YouTube images. What are these guys playing on? That's what Willie Nelson thought, too -- and (iirc) that's why he got Trigger. GJers play on Selmer Maccaferri-type guitars. And they typically use strings like Savarez Argentine. Some, though not all by any means, use really fat picks (3.5mm) like the Wegen.
Members knockwood Posted January 7, 2008 Author Members Posted January 7, 2008 That's what Willie Nelson thought, too -- and (iirc) that's why he got Trigger.GJers play on Selmer Maccaferri-type guitars. And they typically use strings like Savarez Argentine. Some, though not all by any means, use really fat picks (3.5mm) like the Wegen. Great link! Thanks. This passage actually made me laugh out loud: In many cases however, it seems that the [Maccaferri] guitar worked better for players without that resonator, as few original Selmers retain one. We believe this is due to a production error that caused them to come loose and buzz, provoking their prompt and sometime brutal removal.
Members Stackabones Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 guitar worked better for players without that resonator, as few original Selmers retain one. We believe this is due to a production error that caused them to come loose and buzz, provoking their prompt and sometime brutal removal. Imagine if those guys had had HCAG! ->Not if you want to ruin the collector's value! -->Go for it. It's your guitar! --->+1:thu: ---->I'd take it to your guitar tech. ----->Thanks for the replies, folks. I just found out that my gypsy cousin has an uncle knows where we can borrow some tools to fix it. ------>Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
Members EvilTwin Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 I highly recommend this: http://www.amazon.com/Djangology-Django-Reinhardt/dp/B0009V2C7E 10 CD's of Django for under $20. Pretty good sound quality. The first CD alone is worth the price of admission. If you are really interested in the music, John Jorgenson is still touring around the U.S. I'm definitely going to go see him live.
Members knockwood Posted January 7, 2008 Author Members Posted January 7, 2008 I highly recommend this: http://www.amazon.com/Djangology-Django-Reinhardt/dp/B0009V2C7E 10 CD's of Django for under $20. Pretty good sound quality. The first CD alone is worth the price of admission. If you are really interested in the music, John Jorgenson is still touring around the U.S. I'm definitely going to go see him live. That is an insane price. Gotta have it. Thanks for the recommendation! Will definitely give John Jorgenson a listen as well. I have a lot of youtubing to do...
Members Queequeg Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 I see John Jorgenson is playing @ The Ark on my birthday next month. Happy Birthday to me.
Members guitarist21 Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 I have a Capitol Records "Best of Django Reinhardt" album and it is a fairly decent collection. The problem is that once you start listening to it, you're like, "Ooh this one sounds nice, I wonder what album it's originally from?" Then you go out and get that album. And then you start getting concerned about Stephen Grappelli and for which albums he was in top form and so you go out and buy three more albums. Then you start looking up who these guys collaborated with and its all just a big crazy cycle. Ellen
Members OldGuitarPlayer Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 I have a Capitol Records "Best of Django Reinhardt" album and it is a fairly decent collection. The problem is that once you start listening to it, you're like, "Ooh this one sounds nice, I wonder what album it's originally from?" Then you go out and get that album. And then you start getting concerned about Stephen Grappelli and for which albums he was in top form and so you go out and buy three more albums. Then you start looking up who these guys collaborated with and its all just a big crazy cycle. Ellen I know...isn't great? I remember when I was a kid my uncle was like that. He had all kinds of old Django Reinhardt LP's, Benny Goodman with Charlie Christian, Stephane Grapelli with others and you name any number of Jazz guitars LP's but for him it started with Django. He had heard Django play in Europe during WW2 and was amazed by the guy and wanted to know more about jazz guitar because of it. I like the music because of it's acoustic nature and that a small group of simple stringed instruments can make such wonderful sounds in the hands of masters like Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grapelli, Stochelo Rosenberg...etc.
Members bigou Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 http://www.amazon.com/Shades-Django-Stephane-Grappelli/dp/B0000046XJ I really like this album. Give it a try it's worth the price.
Members knockwood Posted January 7, 2008 Author Members Posted January 7, 2008 http://www.amazon.com/Shades-Django-Stephane-Grappelli/dp/B0000046XJI really like this album. Give it a try it's worth the price. Will do. Thanks. And thanks to a tip from Queequeg, I'll be going to see John Jorgenson this Wednesday evening. One thing I love already about the genre is the bargains! $18 concert tix? 10-CD compilations at under $20? Not bad. And what a great forum. Thanks again.
Members EvilTwin Posted January 7, 2008 Members Posted January 7, 2008 Will do. Thanks.And thanks to a tip from Queequeg, I'll be going to see John Jorgenson this Wednesday evening.One thing I love already about the genre is the bargains! $18 concert tix? 10-CD compilations at under $20? Not bad.And what a great forum. Thanks again. Cool! Where are you going to see the JJQ?
Members knockwood Posted January 7, 2008 Author Members Posted January 7, 2008 Where are you going to see the JJQ? Show will be in NYC, @ The Cutting Room on 24th St. Only about a half mile from where I work. Never been to the venue before, but it looks very cool. http://www.thecuttingroomnyc.com/
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