Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 forumites, tell me something I have no clue, but you have experience with,tell me how many CDs you sold on Tinecore, or CD Baby and simllar outlets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto figures for physical carrier go so for $1 to dollar $15 to the retailer, classical track can cost up to $3.5 in digital sales, depending on track lenght and the price set by the IP owners, bulk (palette) go to retailer for less, and thousand of CDs go to the garbage, because they can't be sold anymore, not even an African dealer would take them for $0.15 USD the piece those would be numbers and keep in mind for you Sep 2012 to Oct 2012 = 7 years and as you say about that "The way of mathematics go curious ways" so figures don't actually have to be self-consistent for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto tell me how many ... those would be numbers and keep in mind for you Sep 2012 to Oct 2012 = 7 years and as you say about that "The way of mathematics go curious ways" so figures don't actually have to be self-consistent for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by MargeHowel those would be numbers and keep in mind for you Sep 2012 to Oct 2012 for this poster = 7 years and as you say about that "The way of mathematics go curious ways" so figures don't actually have to be self-consistent for you you can ask Craig to re-activate the first account I had here, but asked him to hide, that much about your mathematical talents, and non-talent music bisinees wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 ... conflict are pre-programmed when know it all amateurs and small potato minds start to post in a Music Business forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 and ---> just press that privat CD !!!no need to discuss endlessly like nerds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scarecrowbob Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 I think "when I was your age" kind of goes back to the overall market being heterogeneous and there are different approaches based on target market segment and context -- the "pay what you want" vs a flat price highlights that we can even change what the perceived relationship is (customer vs sponsor) Indeed, but across these markets I suspect that changing the relationship from consumer to sponsor would be a general good.As a customer, I just want the appropriate level of service for a price point, and across almost every venture I work with "customers" need a price point... even among the people I know who sell pay-what-you-want CDs will sell them at a fixed price in a lot of situations.Possibly the consumer/sponsor distinction would map those situations.As a sponsor I am personally invested in the venture, even if it is only at the level of a single CD, tip, or cultural artifact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto you can ask Craig to re-activate the first account I had here, but asked him to hide, so you are an alt and you hide ...why? that much about your mathematical talents,and non-talenr music bisinees wise those talents made you admit your altliness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 hide?you lost very likely all relation to the virtual world, and the other account get unbanned somewhere in 2013 because I told some people what they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by scarecrowbob Possibly the consumer/sponsor distinction would map those situations. I think they do, like you were saying about the same product being presented in either (sponsor/customer) mode depending on context weather the consumer to sponsor move is a good thing across the board...I just don't know (not a euphamism for NO,just a genuine I don't know)...maybe yes, maybe no I could see there might be some areas where a more fixed "customer" style relationship (and price point) might streamline things esp where the artist is less of a focus than the product (licensing recordings as backing tracks, "special occasion" music like holiday music or wedding music) - not sure on that, just throwing that out as food for thought. As a sponsor I am personally invested in the venture, even if it is only at the level of a single CD, tip, or cultural artifact. yup, that's the difference in the perceived product relationsip...one iss more artist centric, the other is the workpiece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto hide? "but asked him to hide, you lost very likely all relation to the virtual world that would mean I could post...lie a ban....you were saying you got banned...what was that acct name? and the other account get unbanned somewhere in 2013 because I told some people what they are so you ARE an alt...hmm and your account banned, but are now posting under an alt -- did you get approval from the HC mods for that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 There are no fix prices for music and songs, nowhere.Sponsors, or companines whixh want to promote a product with music, i.e. attach a CD to their product, buy the CDs, they pay usual sp about $1.50 for a single with 2-3 vesions of one song when they order a min. of 10.000 CDs, and a CD with a collection of songs and christmas albums for companies cost the same, and an old track from the music catalogue licenced for tv-spots cost about $25.000 USD when the the spot is broadcasted 10.000 times per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto There are no fix prices for music and songs Sponsors, or companines whixh want to promote a product with music, i.e. attach a CD to their product, buy the CDs, they pay usual sp about $1.50 for a single with 2-3 vesions of one song when they order a min. of 10.000 CDs, and a CD with a collection of songs and christmas albums for companies cost the same, and an old track from the music catalogue licenced for tv-spots cost about $25.000 USD when the the spot is broadcasted 10.000 times per year. those would be numbers and keep in mind for you Sep 2012 to Oct 2012 = 7 years and as you say about that "The way of mathematics go curious ways" so figures don't actually have to be self-consistent for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 any more useless question, Marge?on the last 8 years I had at least a dozen names here, and after so about the 10th post all know who that asshole is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by MargeHowel those would be numbers and keep in mind for you Sep 2012 to Oct 2012 = 7 years and as you say about that "The way of mathematics go curious ways" so figures don't actually have to be self-consistent for you Marge, sorry, but I don't need an accountant at the moment who has no clue about music marketing, please try later again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto on the last 8 years I had at least a dozen names here, hmmm, about an hour ago it was 7 years...so now an hour = a year, but as you say about that "The way of mathematics go curious ways" so figures don't actually have to be self-consistent for you I had at least a dozen names here, and after so about the 10th post all know who that asshole is So you habitually post under alts then -- which user names were these? Did you get approval from the HC mods for that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by MargeHowel Did you get approval from the HC mods for that?? I own this forum - send Craig a PM and tell him the investor asshole he is here again. Nevertheless, Craig, as well any moderator, has the right to ban anybody, including me, because of my notorius {censored}ting on the cap of nincompoops, I simply need that venting, or I beat up my look alike MargeHowel employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto I own this forum - send Craig a PM and tell him the investor asshole he is here again. Nevertheless, Craig, as well any moderator, has the right to ban anybody, including me, because of my notorius {censored}ting on the cap of nincompoops, I simply need that venting, or I beat up my look alike MargeHowel employees. They can ban you for all kinds of reasons, like using unauthorized alts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by MargeHowel They can ban you for all kinds of reasons, like using unauthorized alts yes, for example you asking stupid question and waste time about something which is none of your business, and daddymack get pissed again, because soon I tell you what I think of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto which is none of your business, I'm a forum member and you aren't following the terms we joined under send Craig a PM and tell him the investor asshole he is here again. I sent it to daddymack instead because he's the mod listed on this forum so - I'll just cut out and let him decide what he wants to do about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by MargeHowel I'm a forum member and you aren't following the terms we joined under send Craig a PM and tell him the investor asshole he is here again. I sent it to daddymack instead because he's the mod listed on this forum so - I'll just cut out and let him decide what he wants to do about it Post here what daddymack responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MargeHowel Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 he hasn't responded yet - but if it's in PM you'd have to ask him (remember those rules, PMs are private) , ill let him handle it from here - maybe he'll let this alt stay, maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napoli Stiletto Posted October 8, 2012 Members Share Posted October 8, 2012 or maybe he posts a song with a G7alt(#11) chord in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted October 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto I own this forum - send Craig a PM and tell him the investor asshole he is here again. Nevertheless, Craig, as well any moderator, has the right to ban anybody, including me, because of my notorius {censored}ting on the cap of nincompoops, I simply need that venting, or I beat up my look alike MargeHowel employees. No need to bother Anderton, as you said: any moderator will do...hasta la vista, pobrecito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted October 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2012 Originally Posted by Napoli Stiletto yes, for example you asking stupid question and waste time about something which is none of your business, and daddymack get pissed again, because soon I tell you what I think of you. Goodness, gracious me, I don't get 'pissed', I just do that which I am required to do. I was fairly tolerant as long as you behaved, Angelo/Rudolf/Einstein/Stiletto. But you had to cross the line, didn't you? I just can't wait for the next alt... auf wiedersehn, au revoir, adio, adios, hasta la vista, adieu, fare thee well...and good bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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