Members Abando Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Noticed a great price on a guitar. Seller said he was selling it so cheap because the manufacturer sent it out with no serial number. What arethe possible reasons why a new guitar from an established manufacturer wouldn't have a serial number? Name as many reasons as you can think of. Thanks. Abando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 The first thing that comes to mind is that it's a factory second, which means some (often minor) flaw, no warranty, and no serial number. The next is that it's stolen and the serial number was removed. The next after that is that it's counterfeit. What brand and model is it and how much is it selling for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stackabones Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 I am not a serial number. I am a free guitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 I am not a serial number. I am a free guitar! Wrong. Your serial number is 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gitnoob Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Prototype or sales sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Palmer Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Chinese copy. Factory reject. Stolen.Stolen Chinese copy of a factory reject.Chinese copy of a stolen factory reject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jimmy Chaos Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Chinese copy. Factory reject. Stolen.Stolen Chinese copy of a factory reject.Chinese copy of a stolen factory reject. lol:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar_stringer Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Chinese copy. Factory reject. Stolen. Stolen Chinese copy of a factory reject. Chinese copy of a stolen factory reject. All of the above, and perhaps even a counterfeit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Palmer Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 All of the above, and perhaps even a counterfeit. You may have something there mate. Or it could be a genuine un-marked facsimile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C70man Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Some guitars only have a serial # on a label. labels can be stickers and due to being placed on dusty surface when applied, they can fall out. I see a lot of used guitars without labels...doesn't mean squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AndrewGG Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 If it's a Martin it would be an employee model-built for a factory employees own use. These won't carry a serial number nor model designation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Queequeg Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm wondering if there is some reason why you are not divulging the alleged maker of the guitar. That could provide some clue as to why you might not have a ser. #. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LiFeStArTs@40 Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm wondering if there is some reason why you are not divulging the alleged maker of the guitar. That could provide some clue as to why you might not have a ser. #. Because it's probably hot and he knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Abando Posted October 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Just saw a guy selling a guitar on Ebay. Didn't even email the seller. His ad simply says that the reason he is selling the guitar so cheap is because the manufacturer sent him two new guitars with no serial numbers. No big deal. Just wanted to know all the reasons why an established manufacturer might send out new guitars without serial numbers. The above comment reminds me of another thread. I remember telling people on this forum about a well established retail seller selling two Eastmans cheap & a few of you directly accused the seller of selling stolen merchandise because they were so low in price. The reason I didn't mention the seller or the manufacturer is precisely the reasons you witnessed in some of the above comments & in previous comments I read after I started the cheap Eastman thread. I didn't want the seller or manufacturer badmouthed without sufficient evidence they were doing something wrong. As an aside, a funny thing happened to me while being on Ebay for so many years. I have actually become more trustful of people. After having hundreds of dealings on Ebay & only being ripped off once, I have grown to believe that most people are pretty darn honest. I'm still careful, but I have grown less cynical. Thanks for all the answers. Just was looking for some information. At the moment, I don't actually have any money to buy anything even if I wanted to. Abando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fred Fartboski Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 What brand and model is it That's the important question. Then we can find out if the serial number is supposed to be stamped on the head stock, on a decal, a label inside the sound hole, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DrFunk123 Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 A lot of my guitars don't have serial numbers because I built them myself out of parts or from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LiFeStArTs@40 Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Just saw a guy selling a guitar on Ebay. Didn't even email the seller. His ad simply says that the reason he is selling the guitar so cheap is because the manufacturer sent him two new guitars with no serial numbers. No big deal. Just wanted to know all the reasons why an established manufacturer might send out new guitars without serial numbers. The above comment reminds me of another thread. I remember telling people on this forum about a well established retail seller selling two Eastmans cheap & a few of you directly accused the seller of selling stolen merchandise because they were so low in price. The reason I didn't mention the seller or the manufacturer is precisely the reasons you witnessed in some of the above comments & in previous comments I read after I started the cheap Eastman thread. I didn't want the seller or manufacturer badmouthed without sufficient evidence they were doing something wrong. As an aside, a funny thing happened to me while being on Ebay for so many years. I have actually become more trustful of people. After having hundreds of dealings on Ebay & only being ripped off once, I have grown to believe that most people are pretty darn honest. I'm still careful, but I have grown less cynical. Thanks for all the answers. Just was looking for some information. At the moment, I don't actually have any money to buy anything even if I wanted to. Abando Now I got it... my above comment was directed at the seller not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Can you post a link? A quick search of acoustic guitars on eBay for "no serial number" turned up 300+ hits. When I put the search string in quotes I found a koa Takoma but it doesn't sound like the same guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gitnoob Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 I think Abando took his serial number ball and went home. He's punishing us for trying to get him to mistrust eBay sellers. FWIW, I see a lot of honest eBay sellers, but I also see a bunch of them say stuff like "the serial number is filed off, and it has a 'B' stamped on the headstock, but I have no idea what that means." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Samilyn Posted October 15, 2009 Members Share Posted October 15, 2009 Some guitars only have a serial # on a label. labels can be stickers and due to being placed on dusty surface when applied, they can fall out. I see a lot of used guitars without labels...doesn't mean squat. Yup. The labels on my Martin and Guild have both fallen off. Glad the neck blocks are stamped with the SN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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