Whats Happened To TNFrank ?

[FretFiend.]

Quite a few folks are serving time for victimless crimes, so feel safe, FF.

True, such as Willie might be for smokin' a little pot. Wanna empty the prisons because of that?

[kujozilla]

WHAT THE HELL FRANK!??? YOU SHOW UP AND START THIS {censored}!!!?

 

[Sangemon]

WHAT THE HELL FRANK!??? YOU SHOW UP AND START THIS {censored}!!!?

No FretFiend started the {censored}, He always does.

[Terry Allan Hall]

No FretFiend started the {censored}, He always does.

Now, now, Sang...FF's tender feelings will get hurt!

He's very sensitive...much too sensitive to troll PP, however...

[riffmeister]

Let's say I want to shoot someone dead, what's the best handgun to use?

[dmw999]

IOW, you can't back it up. That's okay. I wouldn't have the time to call bull{censored} on every little detail of it anyway.

US Dept. of Justice Data
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/tables/totalstab.cfm

Homicide victimization, 1950-2005

First number is the year.
Second number is homicide rate per 100,000
Third number is estimated number of homicides
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1950 4.6 7,020
1951 4.4 6,820
1952 4.6 7,210
1953 4.5 7,210
1954 4.2 6,850
1955 4.1 6,850
1956 4.1 6,970
1957 4.0 8,060
1958 4.8 8,220
1959 4.9 8,580
1960 5.1 9,110
1961 4.8 8,740
1962 4.6 8,530
1963 4.6 8,640
1964 4.9 9,360
1965 5.1 9,960
1966 5.6 11,040
1967 6.2 12,240
1968 6.9 13,800
1969 7.3 14,760
1970 7.9 16,000
1971 8.6 17,780
1972 9.0 18,670
1973 9.4 19,640
1974 9.8 20,710
1975 9.6 20,510
1976 8.8 18,780
1977 8.8 19,120
1978 9.0 19,560
1979 9.7 21,460
1980 10.2 23,040
1981 9.8 22,520
1982 9.1 21,010
1983 8.3 19,308
1984 7.9 18,692
1985 7.9 18,976
1986 8.6 20,613
1987 8.3 20,096
1988 8.4 20,675
1989 8.7 21,500
1990 9.4 23,438
1991 9.8 24,703
1992 9.3 23,760
1993 9.5 24,526
1994 9.0 23,326
1995 8.2 21,606
1996 7.4 19,645
1997 6.8 18,208
1998 6.3 16,974
1999 5.7 15,522
2000 5.5 15,586
2001 5.6 16,039
2002 5.6 16,229
2003 5.7 16,582
2004 5.5 16,137
2005 5.6 16,692

Source: FBI, Uniform Crime Reports, 1950-2005

Are there any stats showing that violent crimes has been going up in the last 30 years?

(Not sure what this has to do with someone's decision to own a gun, but there you go.)

[gull12]

Let's say I want to shoot someone dead, what's the best handgun to use?

 

 

None.

[Terry Allan Hall]

Let's say I want to shoot someone dead, what's the best handgun to use?

This'll make for a confirmed kill:

SMITH AND WESSON 500 "Hand Cannon"

It makes a big hole going in, but a HUGE one going out...tested one on a 540# wild hawg last month.

[TN.Frank]

LOL, I didn't START anything but I do try and finish stuff when I can.
As far as what's best for stopping evil humans, depends on the human. There's a point where more power actually means less "stopping" power because the bullet tends to just zip right thru without doing much. You need a bit of dwell time for the bullet to transfer it's energy to the "target" if you know what I mean. 125gr .357Mag out of a 4" barrel works very well an so does the 135gr. 40S&W round. Of course all this means diddle squat if you can put the rounds where they'll do the most damage so something that's accurate and that you can shoot well comes first, ft lbs on target only count if they hit the target.

[masterbuilt]

Bass would allow you to gig more often...thus, bring in more $$$ for your other interests... 'Course, I guess a Glock (and a ski mask) might, too...

[masterbuilt]

 

I own guns, but in 52 years on this planet, I have never even once felt the need to point one at another soul, nor have I ever wished I had one on me. You folks talking about "these times" are way off the mark -- crime rates have fallen rather drastically for most of the past 40-50 years, it's just the fact that we now have a 24-hour news cycle in which media are constantly looking for something to splash on our screens that makes folks think things are getting worse...

 

 

True, the FBI violent crime statistics show that violent acts are down in number, especially over the last thirty years. The violence, today, is often extreme due to shock value and callousness of individuals. There are still crimes of passion by gun owners, but it's the copy-cat shooters that get most of the press.

 

One more thing... the majority of violent crimes involving guns are drug/gang related.

[garthman]

I don't have a gun. None of my neighbours have guns. Our local policeman does not have a gun. When I am driving to work I'm comforted by the thought that the possibility of any of the other drivers around me possessing a gun is very remote and the similarly minute chance that a burgular might be carrying a firearm ensures that I sleep soundly at night.

[garthman]

Wasn't there a case in the UK where a burglar was actually shot by the homeowner who was in turn arrested for assault? I can't remember the particulars but it just goes to show how screwy the world has become.

 

 

There was indeed. The burglar was a unarmed teenage boy who ran away when the householder disturbed him. The householder shot him in the back with a shotgun as he was running down the garden.

[Tartanlad]

One more thing... the majority of violent crimes involving guns are drug/gang related.

The ^^ is right enough as every country i believe has some kind
of drugs/gangs feuds always drug related and serious killings always
occur with such and recently a Glasgow man in broad daylight
was shot dead
as he left an Asda (Wallmart store) in front of shoppers
and guns although not as near wide spread for sure as the USA
thankfully but are still somehow getting in the hands of the underworld
here with City's like Glasgow and some other citys in the UK
although a can only speak for Scotland in the UK
knife crime is worst in Glasgow in that now the police can stop
and search and scan anyone
especially young ones before they go into night clubs
as once drink is in then wits are out as they say

BUT why carry a knife in the 1st place i say
i here of killings now near every day many drug related
though more so drink related and the local authorities
have been on about raising the price of alcohol in Scottish stores
like Asda (Wallmart) etc
plus stopping the buy one get one free in pubs trying to curb
the younger drinkers but this never shall happen that is a fact

but they reckon doing such with raising price of alcohol
in Scottish stores would just make the motorways
heading from Scotland to Carlisle in England choke a block
as many Scots would head to the supermarketsto load up
for booze there and so this wouldnt work

But again WHY hit the majority of decent drinkers whom cause no-harm
it wouldnt be fair
Anyhow thankfully all this isnt happening now as MPS
in the Scottish Parliament voted against such a few mths back
and which is only the correct decision

A reckon keep the drink as cheap as chips

[FretFiend.]

...As far as what's best for stopping evil humans, depends on the human....

We've heard it from the authorities here. Crime and homicides are down. We're all safe. This worry about crooks and criminals is just an irrational fear.

The only "evil humans" are the gun owners. Except for TAH.

[FretFiend.]

I don't have a gun. None of my neighbours have guns. Our local policeman does not have a gun. When I am driving to work I'm comforted by the thought that the possibility of any of the other drivers around me possessing a gun is very remote and the similarly minute chance that a burgular might be carrying a firearm ensures that I sleep soundly at night.

Too bad we all can't live in a utopia like you do.

[Terry Allan Hall]

We've heard it from the authorities here. Crime and homicides are down. We're all safe. This worry about crooks and criminals is just an irrational fear. The only "evil humans" are the gun owners. Except for TAH.

I do always try to be on my very best behavior while I'm "armed and dangerous"...

[FretFiend.]

will be fine, thanks. Now, now, Sang...FF's tender feelings will get hurt! He's very sensitive...much too sensitive to troll PP, however...

More of your "setting a good example" and "acting in a civil polite manner", there TAH?

[roughtrade]

Too bad we all can't live in a utopia like you do.

I don't understand why people say that crime is just now getting bad. Crime has always been bad.

I've had access to guns my whole life.My dad carried one every where he went. I carried several over the years, my current is a Taurus .40S&W auto. I personally prefer the .44 S&W special, but I like the conceal-ability of the Taurus combined with a magazine as compared to a large Smith wheelgun.

My wife and I both have CCW permits and she has a .38 special from S&W that she likes. It eases my mind that she can take care of herself when I'm not around to do it for her.

[Terry Allan Hall]

Just kidding...TNFrank could never be evil.

[FretFiend.]

I don't understand why people say that crime is just now getting bad. Crime has always been bad....

Evidently some statement to that effect was made by someone, earlier in this thread (NOT ME BTW).

Several here have taken that as license to bray that crime is not that bad any more.

[FretFiend.]

Just telling it like it is, FF...you go out of your way to get attention through confrontation (posts 22, 35, 37, 40, 41, 45, 50, 51, 65, 66 and 68, in just this single thread), yet then snivel when you get EXACTLY what you begged for...our attention. Seems a bit ungrateful, really.

Look who's going out of their way to get attention here now. I won't bother counting posts. Your post count speaks for itself.

You've made it a pet project of yours to discredit anything I say. I'm not the only target of your arrogance either. There are plenty of members in the PP, which you speak of often, who are fed up with your {censored}.

Any statement I make against TAH is "confrontation" or "sniveling", or "begging for attention", or something else. That's been your same bull{censored} stance for months now.

[Terry Allan Hall]

Look who's going out of their way to get attention here now. I won't bother counting posts. Your post count speaks for itself. You've made it a pet project of yours to discredit anything I say. I'm not the only target of your arrogance either. There are plenty of members in the PP, which you speak of often, who are fed up with your {censored}. Any statement I make against TAH is "confrontation" or "sniveling", or "begging for attention", or something else. That's been your same bull{censored} stance for months now.

I referred more specifically to your attacks against RKO,l bsman and dmw999, all of whom were able to present their opinions in a mature, reasoned fashion...

Your tantrums at me amuse me, mostly, no matter which name you post under, here or in the PP.

And this will be all the attention I can spare you today, FF

[RKO]

I'll say it. Can we get rid of this guy? FF, is there some other forum you can enlighten with your brilliance?

[Tartanlad]

FretFiend

Ive noticed is always trying with someone to wind-up

and ends up winding himself up

FF give yer fingers a wee break and think before you type

you are confrontational over nothing and need to think 1st Laddie