Members JohnMCA72 Posted April 9, 2011 Members Share Posted April 9, 2011 Beethoven's dead. His music should, therefore, never be heard again since to do so would be "covering" it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliftonb Posted April 10, 2011 Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 The problem with that is that even when he was alive, his music still had to be conducted and performed by an orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted April 10, 2011 Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 Beethoven's dead. His music should, therefore, never be heard again since to do so would be "covering" it. that's correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted April 11, 2011 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2011 Beethoven's dead. His music should, therefore, never be heard again since to do so would be "covering" it. Oh, that's just great...now we have to lay off all those symphony orchestras...when will the madness end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg_L Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Ancient composers are a little different. They wrote stuff specifically for other people to play, and rarely, if ever, performed their own material themselves. That's a little different than some local Hawaiian shirt wearing geezer cover band playing Margaritaville to 6 drunken tourists in a hotel bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kurdy Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 I'm pretty sure Beethoven is public domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Perfessor Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Not in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fatusstratus Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 The problem with that is that even when he was alive, his music still had to be conducted and performed by an orchestra. Depends on the composition He was a professional performer - he'd play salons, was a court organist early on - and he wrote for piano, small ensemble, and all that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BushmasterM4 Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 I thought venues paid a yearly license fee for live entertainment in general. A cover band license so to speak and it had to be posted. Like a yearly liquor license. Pay once no matter how many cover bands you have in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted April 11, 2011 Moderators Share Posted April 11, 2011 I thought venues paid a yearly license fee for live entertainment in general. A cover band license so to speak and it had to be posted. Like a yearly liquor license. Pay once no matter how many cover bands you have in a year. Two separate issues...one is a local ordinance permit, sometimes called a cabaret license. That allows you to have live music, in some cases it may specifically exclude drums. But that is not part of the PRO issue. At discussion here is the advantage of avoiding the PRO license fee by hiring unknown original bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dancebass Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 At discussion here is the advantage of avoiding the PRO license fee by hiring unknown original bands. "Known" ones too though right? I don't think most bands that I know working with Perfoming Rights Orgs try to double dip on the shows they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted April 12, 2011 Moderators Share Posted April 12, 2011 "Known" ones too though right? I don't think most bands that I know working with Perfoming Rights Orgs try to double dip on the shows they play. go back to around post #74... If I were in an all originals band, and we were with a PRO, I would refuse to play a venue who was not under an agreement with my PRO....hey, ya gotta have some ethics, right? I mean, seriously, why would I have signed up with a PRO if I am going to go behind their back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jealousblues Posted May 12, 2011 Members Share Posted May 12, 2011 the sad truth is almost no one cares about original music (and that most original bands arnt that great) Writing music is HARD and writing music people will like or care about is even harder and when you DO do that you arnt going to be playing local bars forever and when you move on who is going to take your place? People go to bars to have fun/drink/meet people to f*ck. Cover music helps that along, its easy and people have a good time with is.Its successful for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jealousblues Posted May 12, 2011 Members Share Posted May 12, 2011 and im just going to go out on a limb and say there are many times where a cover band can do a song better than the original artist these days ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members richardmac Posted May 12, 2011 Members Share Posted May 12, 2011 LOL - There aren't a whole lot of new modern songs worth covering, if'n ya ask me. Actually I cover a couple of John Mayer songs, mostly because they have bluesy guitar solos in them and I like to play bluesy every now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted May 13, 2011 Moderators Share Posted May 13, 2011 I like to play bluesy every now and again. No, Richard, say it isn't so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EvilEyeGypsy Posted November 2, 2013 Members Share Posted November 2, 2013 You're right, to a point. The majority of venues in my neck of the woods showcase original bands, and by and large, those venues do as well as the ones that strictly book cover bands. I for one enjoy seeing both original bands, and cover bands, depending on my mood, and I have close friends that play in both.Even though I myself play in an original band, I would hate to see the local cover bands be unable to get a gig. I hope that this is not a trend. There is room for both original and cover bands in any town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CDN-B Posted March 7, 2020 Members Share Posted March 7, 2020 Doesn't it boil down to artist vs technician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltan Posted March 9, 2020 Members Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 5:01 PM, CDN-B said: Doesn't it boil down to artist vs technician? youre responding to a 9 year old thread in which the last poast was made about 7 years ago... but ummmm.... welcome to the boards, n00b... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted March 22, 2020 Members Share Posted March 22, 2020 Subjectivity is for loserz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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