Members zuul777 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Walters, I wouldn't waste your own time swapping out one of those motors. It'd be a huge pain, and you'd have be a genious in that field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 implementing control systems for motors What kind of implementations can we do with leslie motors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chad-Chicago Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 A diode is an electronic component that makes sure electricity flows only one way. To prevent damage to the electrical wiring in your house, be sure to install one of these between the lamp cord and your genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Chad i'll pay u to do that please lets everyone at HC cheap in and see and watch Chad do this tell us all what happens Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Walters9515 What kind of implementations can we do with leslie motors? Well the most obvious implementation with a leslie motor is to spin rotating speakers and drums, but I suppose they'd be suitable for any number of applications requiring similar torque, etc -- maybe powering an ice cream churn for instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 implementation with a leslie motor is to spin rotating speakers and drums, This is easy thats basic i was talking about more functionality and implementating it in the micro-controller to do other things besides just spin the motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Walters9515 This is easy thats basicah, well it did seem like you needed the basic answer, you did have to ask what motor control engineering was after all... i was talking about more functionality and implementating it in the micro-controller I suppose it depends on how good you are with motor control engineering!to do other things besides just spin the motorWell, it's all going to be spinning the motor..I mean that's what the little guy is there for...spinningBut it really still comes down to how good you are with motor control engineering!how good you are with motor control engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zuul777 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Chad would recieve a 120 volt DC half-wave electroshock. Depends on the thickness and temperature of the ice cream. Walters you need to look into how to orchestrate a parallel combination of variable load stepping motors controlled by a single PIC chip. Morepaul can probably tell you more on the PIC microcontroller. I've designed several circuits to handle the transient of these things, as the very nature of them is sporadic at best. Messing around with the leslie motors can be very dangerous. Their low RPM produce massive amounts of torque which have been known to rip the limbs off of several curious folks. Moreso, with the PIC microcontroller you will be able to link up to 1024 devices using a serial drive connection. More leslie cabinets, DMX lighting boxes (with conversion of course), and anything MIDI. Be careful with the MIDI connections as these can create grounds loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 What can i do with PIC microcontroller? When programming it what kind of motor rotations can i get? what are 1024 devices? you mean the midi breakout boxes The regular leslie motors are either DC or AC whats the difference? With PWM motors the PIC can send out PWM pulses and duty cycles to changes the rotations and curves? Can i send a triangle or square wave to a stepper motor? How can i make the Leslie motor oscillate different? or rotate different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Walters9515 What can i do with PIC microcontroller?When programming it what kind of motor rotations can i get? Well, it comes down to how good you are with motor control engineering!how good you are with motor control engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zuul777 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Originally posted by Walters9515 What can i do with PIC microcontroller?When programming it what kind of motor rotations can i get? what are 1024 devices? you mean the midi breakout boxesThe regular leslie motors are either DC or AC whats the difference?With PWM motors the PIC can send out PWM pulses and duty cycles to changes the rotations and curves?Can i send a triangle or square wave to a stepper motor?How can i make the Leslie motor oscillate different? or rotate different? The PIC microcontroller is good for controlling almost anything. By using several transitory components with the right conditions you can do almost anything. I've daisdychained several of these together before for results that will amaze you!!! 1024 is the limit of devices you can link to the PIC controller's serial drive. Please don't touch terminal 3 to the motor's ground, this can be fatal, as there is usually a 50 amp circuit breaker that will not blow to save your life. The duty cycle MUST NOT BE TAMPERED WITH. I caution you because if there is an impedance of less than i50, you can create a backfeed into the PIC. Thats just a no no, and anybody with controls engineering skills would scold a person for it. Depending on the stepper motors, triangle and square waves can harm the coils. Be sure to measure the motor's inductance and verify it with the spec sheet before taking this approach. Few people have used 3-speed transmissions to change the output speed and direction of leslie motors. Theres nothing quite like shifting into 2nd during a song. You can hear the lower cab just take off! Good luck with your experimentation Walters.I've got a few books on the serial drive if you're interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thanks zuul777 for the help How can i input a Square or Triangle wavefrom into a motor? which motor will recieve a input like this? I'm trying to get different rotations and oscillations cycles out of a leslie motor how can i get differet rotations and oscillation cycles? What about single phase and 3 phase motor do they work on phase shift input signals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thanks zuul777 for the help How can i input a Square or Triangle wavefrom into a motor? which motor will recieve a input like this? I'm trying to get different rotations and oscillations cycles out of a leslie motor how can i get differet rotations and oscillation cycles? What about single phase and 3 phase motor do they work on phase shift input signals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thanks zuul777 for the help How can i input a Square or Triangle wavefrom into a motor? which motor will recieve a input like this? I'm trying to get different rotations and oscillations cycles out of a leslie motor how can i get differet rotations and oscillation cycles? What about single phase and 3 phase motor do they work on phase shift input signals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thanks zuul777 for the help How can i input a Square or Triangle wavefrom into a motor? which motor will recieve a input like this? I'm trying to get different rotations and oscillations cycles out of a leslie motor how can i get differet rotations and oscillation cycles? What about single phase and 3 phase motor do they work on phase shift input signals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 oooh, getting pretty trolly there - even for the Walters character! I'd watch that dude! I'm trying to get different rotations and oscillations cycles out of a leslie motor how can i get differet rotations and oscillation cycles? It'd probably help if you gave us an idea of how good you are with motor control engineering How good are you at motor contrl engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 my computer messed up and tripled posted sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zuul777 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 If you want 3-phase motors, you will need 3-phase supply. Solution #1: 3-phase gasoline generator. Good luck finding one. Might have to build it Solution #2: 3-phase converter. Using a series of motors and generators, you can achieve a 3-phase power source by using your 120/240 mains at home. Solution #3: Tell your power company. Theres nothing wrong with having 208/480 400A feed in your basement. Can I ask you walters why you are interested in 3-phase motors so much? Besides a smoother running device, you'll just be complicating your controller, and you will need 3 PIC microcontrollers!!!!! Square and triangle waveforms can be generated by using a D108 chip in overdrive configurations. Connect pins 1, 2, and 8 together for this effect. Switch off pins 1 and 3 to change waveforms. Feed this into your PIC and there you go. Your oscillation can be changed by the voltage going into the motor. I would keep this under 12KV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 These things happen I'm trying to get different rotations and oscillations cycles out of a leslie motor how can i get differet rotations and oscillation cycles? It'd probably help if you gave us an idea of how good you are with motor control engineering How good are you at motor control engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zuul777 Posted January 3, 2006 Members Share Posted January 3, 2006 Walters, how good are you with motor controlling? On a scale of 1-19 plz. Connected several motors to the leslie cab with phase modulation can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 4, 2006 i need some Motor Theory first DC motors? AC motors? Single Phase motors? 3 phase motors? PWM motor? Phase modulation motors? stepper motors? Whats the Difference between all these motors? Do they all have different rotation cycles? I'm looking for a motor that has a input so i can input a triangle waveform or square waveform to change the rotation cycles which motor would do this please? 2 gear motors: slow and fast acceleration or deceleration depends on the R/C time constant Timer inside the leslie cabinet and motor most motors just have 2 speeds adding a R/C timer so when u switch from the slow motor to the fast motor the R/C timer is in the middle hooked up to the voltage line and will delay or ramp the voltage to give a slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted January 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 4, 2006 Walters, how good are you with motor controlling? On a scale of 1-19 plz. What is motor controlling mean? like program a Pic microcontroller using C++ or basic? Connected several motors to the leslie cab with phase modulation can you? How can u hook up 7 motors to One leslie cab? What motor has 7 motors stacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted January 4, 2006 Members Share Posted January 4, 2006 Originally posted by Walters9515 i need some Motor Theory first DC motors?AC motors?Single Phase motors?3 phase motors?PWM motor?Phase modulation motors?stepper motors?Whats the Difference between all these motors?Do they all have different rotation cycles?I'm looking for a motor that has a input so i can input a triangle waveform or square waveform to change the rotation cycleswhich motor would do this please?2 gear motors: slow and fast acceleration or deceleration depends on the R/C time constant Timer inside the leslie cabinet and motor most motors just have 2 speedsadding a R/C timer so when u switch from the slow motor to the fast motor the R/C timer is in the middle hooked up to the voltage line and will delay or ramp the voltage to give a slope. Before you can get into that we need to know how good you are with motor control on a 1-19 scale It would probably be most helpful if you answer for both You, the actor and you the Walters character you play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted January 4, 2006 Members Share Posted January 4, 2006 Originally posted by Walters9515 Walters, how good are you with motor controlling? On a scale of 1-19 plz.What is motor controlling mean? like program a Pic microcontroller using C++ or basic? well it depends on how good you are with motor control engineering how goo are you with motor control engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zuul777 Posted January 4, 2006 Members Share Posted January 4, 2006 We need to know how good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.