Members bibleboy3 Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hi All, Being that I am curious by nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ryanrex Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 I have a Presonus Eureka i think MAP is 399 on it. I love it personally i think its a great preamp. I use it with a CAD trion 8000 Which i wish was a little better microphone, and i use it for acoustic guitars and vocals. i think its a great sound. I would Def check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 If you are counting per mic preamp, then my favorite by far is the FMR RNP $475 for TWO mic preamps, divided by two = less than $400 ). I like this for...well, just about everything. Drums, kicks, vocals, acoustic guitars - anywhere that you'd want a clear, transparent sort of sound. Otherwise, I'm not sure. I've used Mackie VLZ preamps and think they're pretty good for the money, but my guess is that there's better ones for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bibleboy3 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 I have been hearing some good things about the RNP.. but if its anything like the RNC quality wise ... then it will be a winner!! BTW love my RNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Single channel for under $400? Groove Tubes The Brick. Two channels, under $400 per channel (actually not much over that for the two channels)? RNP. Those are my two favorite "budget" preamps - both perform much better than their pricetags might suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Charles Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 My fav is my RNP that I got on ebay for $360.00. My fav of my lower priced mics is the AT 3035. My gold channel is an AKG 414 or Rode tube mic into an Avalon 737, but the RNP and AT are very good for their costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 I have been hearing some good things about the RNP.. but if its anything like the RNC quality wise ... then it will be a winner!! BTW love my RNC I think it's equally great of a bargain. It's really a fantastic mic preamp. All the FMR stuff sounds great and comes at a fraction of a price. Now if Mark can come out with an FMR Really Nice Massive Passive that costs $300... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrJoshua Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 The RNP is the first preamp I recommend to anyone putting together a home studio. At less than $250/channel it's an absolute steal. The Groove Tubes "The Brick" is another very solid preamp for a great price. I'm also a fan of the Grace Design Model 101, which is a little more expensive, but is an extremely clean preamp that adds no color to the signal. Those three units together give you a pretty decent selection to work with. Pick up two FMR units so you can do kick, snare, and two overheads for drums, then take your pick of the three for vocals (the Brick tends to work great with these in general), electric guitars (any of the three will work depending on the sound you're looking for), acoustic guitars (I like the Grace here when I'm going for a very clean sound, or the Brick when I want a little color to help smooth out the top end a touch, and the FMR comes in handy if I want to try something crazy with stereo mics or if I'm just looking for a sound in between the other two preamps), bass (I actually like the Grace a lot as a DI, but any of the three give great results), and any other sound source you can think of. Then add on other preamps over time to build your collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 I haven't used the Brick, but if we're talking about a first good-quality mic preamp at a budget price, the RNP gets the nod for me. It's clear and transparent, and can be used in quite a variety of applications. The Brick is supposed to be a great mic preamp, but for my purposes, clear transparent mic preamps would be more versatile. Now, what works for me may not work for you, so that's something you have to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 Sorry to hijack the thread everyone but I have a question about running preamps through firewire interfaces (specifically a Firepod). If recording this way, does it even make sense to have the pre recieving the signal and then out to a firewire interface and on to the PC? If it has to pass through the interface is it worth investing in a preamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I was The Funk Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 Sorry to hijack the thread everyone but I have a question about running preamps through firewire interfaces (specifically a Firepod). If recording this way, does it even make sense to have the pre recieving the signal and then out to a firewire interface and on to the PC? If it has to pass through the interface is it worth investing in a preamp? Yes. It goes into the line level ins of the interface. Dont put it through the interface's preamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 So for the presonus, you would use it in the 3 to 8 Line inputs on the front of the unit? So using a 1/4 instead of an XLR bypasses the pres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 I don't have the PreSonus, but yes, that sounds correct. You would not put the preamp output through another preamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 Syteks are popular budget mic preamps also. I've never used one, but they seem to be highly regarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 I don't have the PreSonus, but yes, that sounds correct. You would not put the preamp output through another preamp. As I had thought. A friend and I were having a friendly debate over the utility of purchasing preamps when in combination with a Firepod. Basically, he saw no reason to buy another preamp when there are 8 already in the unit. I happened to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 Pick up two FMR units so you can do kick, snare, and two overheads for drums, then take your pick of the three for vocals (the Brick tends to work great with these in general), electric guitars (any of the three will work depending on the sound you're looking for)... Which would you recomend for heavy (rock and metal) guitars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 Which would you recomend for heavy (rock and metal) guitars? I've used RNPs for hard rock guitars with good success. I frequently use Neve Porticos or Peavey VMP-2s for this as well. Depends on what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 Unfortunately, both the Portico and the elusive VMP-2 are out of my price range. I am just a weekend warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrJoshua Posted February 27, 2008 Members Share Posted February 27, 2008 For heavy guitars the RNP will work very well. The Brick will also be a great choice. I'd be less inclined to use the Grace for heavy guitars, but if you have a great sound coming out of the speaker the Grace will let that go to tape, assuming you have a decent mic in proper position. The RNP has the strong advantage of being a two-channel unit, so you can use one RNP to position a close mic and a room mic. A room mic capturing a good-sounding, well-played guitar in a good room can go a long way toward giving you a big guitar sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted February 28, 2008 Members Share Posted February 28, 2008 Unfortunately, both the Portico and the elusive VMP-2 are out of my price range. I am just a weekend warrior. The VMP-2 is also discontinued, which makes it tough to get. The RNP sounds great on everything. Very versatile, and holds up well with hard rock and metal guitar. The Brick would most likely be another very good choice, although you do have to consider that this is just one mic preamp, as MrJoshua pointed out above. You might be better off with the RNP since you can distance and close-mic your guitar cabinet, if we are talking about just one mic preamp purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted February 28, 2008 Members Share Posted February 28, 2008 I do not like my room so I do not use room mics very often. I find two 57s on one cone works well. That configuration makes it easy to get rid of phase problems too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 For hard rock, I'd recommend the RNP on guitars... if you happen to have a Brick too, use that for the bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted February 28, 2008 Members Share Posted February 28, 2008 Excellent. Looks like I made a wise choice. The RNPs should be arriving any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members H-BOMB!!! Posted February 28, 2008 Members Share Posted February 28, 2008 So for the presonus, you would use it in the 3 to 8 Line inputs on the front of the unit? So using a 1/4 instead of an XLR bypasses the pres? I think you probably already had this answered, but yes... you would use inputs 3-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strange Posted February 28, 2008 Members Share Posted February 28, 2008 I had actually already done this a few times before. My friend was under the impression that the FirePods pres were just 'taking over' the signal and therefore negating the preamp. Can inputs 1 and 2 do the same thing even though the double as instrument inputs? I have never tried those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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