Members AtomHeartMother Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 What guitars do you think have poor resale value? The big three that I've noticed that don't seem to sell well are: Carvin, G&L, and Schecter. They're all high quality guitars, but just don't sell well. While guitars by Fender and Gibson seem to retain 75-80% of the new value, you'd be lucky to get 60% on the above brands. I often see Carvin and G&L's selling for half their new value, and Schecters just plain don't sell. What's the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonK Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 I had a Schecter C-1EA I sold last year that went in a day on eBay at a BIN close to what I paid for it. G&L is another story - fantastic guitars but steep depreciation. Never had a Carvin. My experiences re-selling a pair of Larrivee's was dismal too. I had a mint D-05 that I had to list 3 times over six months before it sold (to a guy in Scotland, or I don't think I'd have ever been able to sell it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hi AHM, Welcome back! You gonna be nice this time? Anyway, good to see your monkey face! BOT - I wouldn't buy a Framus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seajay Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hamer USA guitars traditionally have had poor resale value. However, I think the secret is out as it appears that the price of these is creeping up lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackHatHunter Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Godin comes to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bigconig Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 I've had better luck reselling my Carvins than I have my Fenders. But one reason some Carvins don't get top dollar is because the fun of ordering a cutom guitar is getting to order it just the way you want it. As long as the model you are selling is still available from Carvin most people opt to have their own built. Gibson is where the money can be made. A big part of that is Musicians friend/ guitar center. A few years ago I could get LP Classics for $1300 locally, MF was getting 2 grand, so people assumed that's what they cost. It was easy to flip them for 15-16 hundred and people still thought they were getting the deal of the century. I actually financed last years vacation on what I made off of one Les Paul I bought and resold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PolyFmorf Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Ibanez and DIY Warmoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d_dave_c Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 As noted above - Carvin's b/c they're custom and tailored to individual tastes. Schecter's b/c they're made at the Cort factory like a gazillion other guitars and the market is flooded. Not sure on G&L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 It is all brand equity. People know the Gibson and Fender brands and people buy bthem more. They are less familiar with the off-brands like Godin, Chandler, Schecter, G&L, Carvin, and/or they are unsure of the value of a used import. eBay has made it easier to move these items. Instead of having to find the handful of Carivn lovers in your area, you can braodcast to every Carvin lover in the world via the Web, and get more competition for your guitar. If I were selling an off-brand, I would sell via eBay; buying? I would buy local. An example: my used USA Schecters cost me $375 each for a "traditional" Strat and Tele locally, I sold them for $675 and $700 a year later on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members r2dhart Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 I don't get it either. I really like G&L's and the few Carvin's I've been able to lay my hands on have been great guitars too, but for some reason they just lack the appeal that other brands seem to have. This is exactly the reason I won't buy either of thee brands new. Why pay $1100 - $1200 for a new G&L Legacy when you can pick up a good condition used one for $700? I've actually been entertaining the idea lately of selling my MIM 60's Strat and replacing it with a used G&L Legacy. There isn't a tremendous difference between the prices that these two are selling for on EBay and I think the G&L is a superior instrument by a considerable margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members conrad Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Originally posted by seajay Hamer USA guitars traditionally have had poor resale value. However, I think the secret is out as it appears that the price of these is creeping up lately. Prices for the early ones (77-81) are going sky high last months, a year ago, you could find an early sunburst for 1000$ now you can add at least 50 %, and the early Standards are now in the 3-4000 $ range. I bought my first Newport 2 years ago for 800 $, now 1100-1300 $ seems to be the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xbryanx Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 fender + gibson = paying for the name on the headstock. more so with gibson though, although i shouldnt really talk considering i own both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackHatHunter Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Originally posted by xbryanx fender + gibson = paying for the name on the headstock. more so with gibson though, although i shouldnt really talk considering i own both. not 100% true... it's not like you don't also get a pretty cool guitar out of the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collie Ransom Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 . Tokai....Tokai.....Tokai....can't give that {censored} away, followed by Dillion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldFenderGuy Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 I've talked to a number of 'new players' that won't buy anything other than a used Fender USA Strat or Gibson LP for their first guitar. Their reason? "That's what so-and-so played, so I also need one". That type of reasoning helps to drive up the price of certain used guitars, and lowers the price of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cincy_cosmo Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 I think that any guitar that is a 'minor' brand is prone to bad resale value, as well as any guitar that is a discount brand (ie Epiphone). At the same token, I've resold Agiles and gotten reasonable prices out of them (lost under $40). The real loss of value is when you buy NEW and sell USED. You can buy almost anything USED and sell USED and do better. Having said that, I love to buy new guitars...it's a weakness I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Yes, Warmoth guitars have low resale value. Now Agiles and SXs have pretty good resale value because if the value falls below 80% it becomes a donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitArtMan Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Tom Anderson and Don Grosh come to mind. I've seen (and bought) used Hollow Drop Top Classics that retailed for over $3500, and paid less than $1700 - in mint condition. Same thing with the Cobra model. I've seen used Grosh Retro Classics that retail now for over $3000 go for $1200-1250. That's why I buy used! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Jeff Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Peaveys that aren't a Wolfgang, HP, or Vandenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DenverDave Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Another brand with bad resale is Robin guitars. A new Robin Wrangler cost about $1200.00 - $1550.00 - depending on the options. Used, the same guitars usually run $650.00 - $900.00. I intend on taking advantage of that by buying a used one rather than a new one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Up until I got a Fender.... my whole collection!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members batotman Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Custom Shop Showmasters. I ain't complaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members micahsdad Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Originally posted by Collie Ransom . Tokai....Tokai.....Tokai....can't give that {censored} away, followed by Dillion. Those Tokai LP's MIJ from the 80s seem to be selling at a pretty good clip!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members machine gunner Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Carvins seem to be selling quite a bit better than they used to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omni Posted June 29, 2006 Members Share Posted June 29, 2006 Carvin and Heritage have {censored} ass resale value. I lost my ass on a top of the line Heritage POS LP copy.NEVER again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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