Members nat whilk II Posted August 14, 2009 Members Share Posted August 14, 2009 What's the common wisdom? Buy a reduced-price UAD-1 now? Or will it soon be obsolete? Or just start out with the UAD-2? The older PCI slots can still be had on new computers, so that's not an issue - yet. Huge advantages to the UAD-2 (other than the sheer processing power per card)? nat whilk ii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veracohr Posted August 14, 2009 Members Share Posted August 14, 2009 UAD-1 is still being sold new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DontLetMeDrown Posted August 14, 2009 Members Share Posted August 14, 2009 please PM me a link if you know some place selling PCI versions. All of my PCI-e slots are filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nat whilk II Posted August 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 I've seen a few googling around - Still no common wisdom out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DontLetMeDrown Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 Well I bought 2 about 2 months ago and I love them. Well worth the $200 I paid, plus I got $200 in voucher money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 I'm not seeing them for sale "new" - if they're still available, I'm not sure where you'd source one from. Since the UAD-2 is out, I doubt the UAD-1 will be available for much longer; if it isn't discontinued already. As far as plug-in support, I would imagine you can still get them, although again, with the newer cards available, I don't we'll see much in terms of new development for the older cards. All pure supposition and conjecture on my part though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 Excuse me for maybe being stupido but ,...The UAD thingies are NO soundcards right?? They are cards that have built in plug-ins?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DontLetMeDrown Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 Excuse me for maybe being stupido but ,...The UAD thingies are NO soundcards right?? They are cards that have built in plug-ins?? Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 Right. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BushmasterM4 Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 They just run the plugins hardwired or do they run any vst or vsti's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 They're DSP cards that add additional computational power to your computer system beyond that available from the host's CPU alone. The UAD-1 was PCI, the UAD-2 is PCI-e. The 2 also has more computational "horsepower", and can run more and / or more complex plug-ins. You can run more than one card in your computer if you have the available slots, but I'm not sure if there are any restrictions on "mixing" the two types of cards (PCI / PCI-e) on the same system. Like the Pro Tools HD Accel cards and the SSL Duende (a rack mounted firewire DSP unit) that I use, the plug-ins that run on the UAD cards have to be programmed specifically for those cards. You can not run your favorite VST plug-ins on their processors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members doug osborne Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 UAD-1 was made in both PCI and PCIe versions. I have two PCI and one PCIe in my computer, so they can indeed be mixed. UAD-2 is only PCIe. The newest plugins from UA, for example the Fatso, only run on UAD-2. I would assume that the -1 and -2 versions are completely different code, so I'm not surprised that future development is only for the new platform. The cheapest UAD-2 has more power than the UAD-1, so I'm not surprised that more - or fatter - plugins can run on the UAD-2. there seem to be UAD-2 versions of all plugins except for Nigel, the free amp simulator (I would hope they are developing a completely new amp sim, based on the UAD-2). I would get the biggest UAD-2 card I could afford and start accumulating plugins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Doug, what do you feel some of the standout plug-ins for the UAD-2 series are? And thanks for the correction on the UAD-1 being available as PCI and PCI-e, and the clarification that you can run both types of cards on the same system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members doug osborne Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 Plate 140 Fairchild, LA-2A...any of the compressors, really. Pultec EQs, Neve, Harrison channel strips - just put these on a track with everything flat and they usually do something good. Precision series Limiter, EQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 How many plug-ins can you run simultaneously on the UAD-2 cards? From looking at the www.uaudio.com site, it would appear that you can run these cards with Pro Tools HD, although there are some latency issues you have to watch out for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members doug osborne Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 How many plug-ins can you run simultaneously on the UAD-2 cards? http://www.uaudio.com/support/uad/charts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TBush Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 I just bought one for $150 2 weeks ago. It came with the standard plug offerings, and I'll probably try to utilize it for basic comp/eq stuff. I just mixed a live performance using mostly the UAD plugs- the 1176 is a pretty close emulation of a real one, and the channel strip (well, "EX-1", which is the same CS-1 strip w/out time FX) proved really versatile and sounded good to my ears. I did use the RealVerb as a general master verb, and the built-in delay compensation plug was perfect when strapped across the other subgroups. In the past, I've had to render certain tracks to save CPU- adding a couple instances of Drumagog (even if they're only 25 or 30 % of the overall tone) and a convolution verb can slow the CPU down fairly considerably. All in all I'm real happy with it and hopefully I can do some pretty complicated mixes now w/out having to render quite so much. Or at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BushmasterM4 Posted August 20, 2009 Members Share Posted August 20, 2009 So in my case since I only have VST plugins, I cant utilize one. Anyone try FX-Teleport ? It uses another pc connected to you DAW rig via cat5 to run your plugins. Sounds interesting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members doug osborne Posted August 20, 2009 Members Share Posted August 20, 2009 The UAD-x plugins are VST plugins. FX-Teleport works, but development and support seems to have stopped and there is less need with modern, more-powerful multi-core computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The UAD-x plugins are VST plugins. But aren't they specifically ported over to run on the UAD cards? IOW, I didn't think you could run just any old VST plug in you wanted to on their DSP cards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veracohr Posted August 20, 2009 Members Share Posted August 20, 2009 How many plug-ins can you run simultaneously on the UAD-2 cards? In addition to the link Doug posted, I'll add that there are two separate limiting factors: processing and memory. I assume that like UAD-1, 2 has a small meter window you can display that shows how much of the card's processing and memory you are using; I tend to use a lot of long echoes, so I can max out the memory of my UAD-1 without hitting the processor much. Or vice versa if using other types of plugins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BushmasterM4 Posted August 20, 2009 Members Share Posted August 20, 2009 The UAD-x plugins are VST plugins. But aren't they specifically ported over to run on the UAD cards? IOW, I didn't think you could run just any old VST plug in you wanted to on their DSP cards... I'll check out there web site and see. If thats the case, Id love to have a few. Would be better than going the FX-Teleport way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DontLetMeDrown Posted August 20, 2009 Members Share Posted August 20, 2009 You can only run UAD's plug-ins on UAD cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members doug osborne Posted August 20, 2009 Members Share Posted August 20, 2009 The UAD-x plugins are VST plugins that can run in any VST host. A UAD card must be in the computer for them to work. Non-UAD plugins have nothing to do with the UAD card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BushmasterM4 Posted August 20, 2009 Members Share Posted August 20, 2009 That sucks. They should make a unit that supports any vst. That would sell better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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