Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Curious as to which you would rather have an ESP standard or a Edwards. the ESP is about $300-400 more. Factors to consider: (1) ESP arguably may be made slightly better(2) Both have EMGs(3) The Edwards has a Full Les Paul Body/ESP has thinner body thus perhaps resulting in a different sound.(4) The Edwards has an ebony board, where the ESP has rosewood. (can't figure that one out) Discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Bump... any comments as to why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buckethead2 Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 uhhh...go with the esp cause I don't know what the {censored} edwards is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oggy Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Do you want an LP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by oggy Do you want an LP? I suppose that is the question... I do want a Les Paul, but I also like the take ESP has on the LP (in shape). I suppose I'm just trying to figure out what is ultimately the better guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dakine Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 with $300-$400 difference I guess you HAVE to be talking about a LTD, not an ESP right?That said they are toatally different guitars. Same'ish shape, and thats it!LTD (esp) is a Les Paul 'shredder, Edwards is a Les Paul replica (down to weight,build,style,construction etc.) ALL depends on what sound/style you are going for as they truly are like chalk and cheese alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tele0507 Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 esp this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoddy Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by Buckethead2 uhhh...go with the esp cause I don't know what the {censored} edwards is. I believe that Edwards is made by ESP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by Dakine with $300-$400 difference I guess you HAVE to be talking about a LTD, not an ESP right?That said they are toatally different guitars. Same'ish shape, and thats it!LTD (esp) is a Les Paul 'shredder, Edwards is a Les Paul replica (down to weight,build,style,construction etc.)ALL depends on what sound/style you are going for as they truly are like chalk and cheese alot. Ah I'm sorry for not being clear. I'm talking about the ESP Standard Series (not the LTD). The difference in price generally comes with Edwards when you ship them over (and possibly in Customs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oggy Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by Dakine ....they are toatally different guitars. Same'ish shape, and thats it!LTD (esp) is a Les Paul 'shredder, Edwards is a Les Paul replica (down to weight,build,style,construction etc.)ALL depends on what sound/style you are going for as they truly are like chalk and cheese alot. Yep. The Eclipse resembles a LP and thats about all they have in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Never played an Edwards... The ESP LP-ish copies are nice for what they are. I always thought the Edwards were more comparable to the LTD stuff... Not saying that the more expensive guitar will be better, but the ESPs seem pretty consistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by oggy Yep. The Eclipse resembles a LP and thats about all they have in common. Yes that is definitely true.. just trying to get a feel on which one people would rather have and why.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dakine Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 shipping cost?I used to live in Texas and now back in UK.I can get an Edwards (top LP from what can see, not Navigator but Edwards) WAY cheaper than an ESP Std. here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by Dakine shipping cost?I used to live in Texas and now back in UK.I can get an Edwards (top LP from what can see, not Navigator but Edwards) WAY cheaper than an ESP Std. here. Hmm that is strange.. I can pick up an ESP Eclipse from $1250-1400. Edwards is about $800 or so then factor in $125 shipping that makes the cost somewhat similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by oggy Yep. The Eclipse resembles a LP and thats about all they have in common. I'm curious any thoughts on whether the ESP Standard is more of a lead guitar or can it handle rhythm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pigsinzen Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 NOTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dakine Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 maybe exchange rates and such.Looking at an Edwards myself (keeping my Gibson stock) to mod abit.To my door should be about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by Dakine maybe exchange rates and such.Looking at an Edwards myself (keeping my Gibson stock) to mod abit.To my door should be about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katintokyo Posted September 12, 2006 Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by jazzyman I wish I could try a Edwards somewhere... http://www.japan-guide.com/ The Hierarchy is ESP (top), LTD (cheaper), Edwards (Japan only - not too expensive), Grass Roots (maybe only Japan - better than Epiphones IMO - $400 LP's etc.) All the same company. Banana Republic, Gap, Old Navy. The Edwards I have seen are very similar to the LTD's. Maybe just Japanese and U.S. brands? http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/index.html this is some pretty sick stuff, really. gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2006 Originally posted by katintokyo http://www.japan-guide.com/The Hierarchy is ESP (top), LTD (cheaper), Edwards (Japan only - not too expensive), Grass Roots (maybe only Japan - better than Epiphones IMO - $400 LP's etc.)All the same company. Banana Republic, Gap, Old Navy.The Edwards I have seen are very similar to the LTD's. Maybe just Japanese and U.S. brands?http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/index.htmlthis is some pretty sick stuff, really. gotta love it. That is interesting.. So what you're saying is that LTD are ranked higher then Edwards in terms of quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cooker Posted September 13, 2006 Members Share Posted September 13, 2006 Originally posted by jazzyman Curious as to which you would rather have an ESP standard or a Edwards. the ESP is about $300-400 more. Factors to consider:(1) ESP arguably may be made slightly better(2) Both have EMGs(3) The Edwards has a Full Les Paul Body/ESP has thinner body thus perhaps resulting in a different sound.(4) The Edwards has an ebony board, where the ESP has rosewood. (can't figure that one out)Discuss... Um in the ESP standard series there are more ebony fingerboard LP's than rosewood. I'd go ESP on most guitars, unless you are getting that black LP on katanaguitars.com for $699. Nice deal. It has duncan distortions, not EMGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jazzyman Posted September 13, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 13, 2006 Originally posted by Cooker Um in the ESP standard series there are more ebony fingerboard LP's than rosewood.I'd go ESP on most guitars, unless you are getting that black LP on katanaguitars.com for $699. Nice deal. It has duncan distortions, not EMGs. Could you elaborate? Are you saying that you prefer ESP Eclipses or that you do in all cases except the Black Edwards? Is it just because of the pickups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cooker Posted September 15, 2006 Members Share Posted September 15, 2006 Well in the original post you said ESP standard guitars, which is a series. ECLIPSE-II - rosewoood ECLIPSE-II VB - ebony ECLIPSE-II FM - ebony Given the price difference, I'd go with the $699 black edwards mentioned above. Other than that model, I'd be choosing ESP. As far as pickups, I think EMG's are great. If you aren't playing high gain you might not want them though. As far as the duncans, I have not played that pickup (duncan distortion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oggy Posted September 16, 2006 Members Share Posted September 16, 2006 Originally posted by katintokyo http://www.japan-guide.com/The Hierarchy is ESP (top), LTD (cheaper), Edwards (Japan only - not too expensive), Grass Roots (maybe only Japan - better than Epiphones IMO - $400 LP's etc.)All the same company. Banana Republic, Gap, Old Navy.The Edwards I have seen are very similar to the LTD's. Maybe just Japanese and U.S. brands?http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/index.htmlthis is some pretty sick stuff, really. gotta love it. I've never played an LTD that stacks up to the two Edwards I've played. If the info I've gatherd on these forums is correct, Edwards are made in the same factory as ESP Standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members necrotic_vision Posted September 16, 2006 Members Share Posted September 16, 2006 edwards is a massive step above ltd, anyone who suggests otherwise has absolutely no idea what theyre talking about. edwards (or at least my edwards sykes and all others that im aware of) are manufactured in the same factory as esp standards - the quality of build is similar to my esp standard horizon frII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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