Who was the very first in music recording to overdub? AND - What year was it?

[Deef]

From:

EFF "Publications - Dead Media Project" Archive

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The Player Piano Notes excerpted from the liner notes for the 1993 CD, "Gershwin Plays Gershwin: The Piano Rolls."

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While Gershwin was growing up (he was born in 1898) player pianos and piano rolls became a huge, lucrative and lavish industry. Happily, Gershwin's roll making years trace the rise of the player piano; of the approximately 130 rolls he made, the first was issued in 1916 and the last in 1927.

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...roll arrangers were always looking for new musical tricks to amaze and excite the prospective purchaser. One such trick was to overdub ; many more notes could be encoded into a roll than a single pianist could lay down by hand. The result was a full, busy and exhilarating sound....

 

Yeah, it ain't audio, but it is overdubbing!

 

Deef

[Bruce Swedien]

phaeton sez-------->The first overdubbing was done by Brucie The Viking's ancestor, on a wax drum in the year 876 on a boat trip from Fnjoord Skorgammel to Detroit Michigan. The song was "Longer Boats" and it was performed by Brucie's house band which featured guitarist Toni Iommi. The wax cylinder recorder offered 1024 rewriteable tracks, with 16 recordable simultaneously. It also had a plethora of build-in digital effects such as tremolo, reverb (plate and chamber), chorus, flange, distortion (51 types) and compression (not to mention a built-in 30-band graphic eq).

 

Unfortunately the boat was eaten by a sea serpent, and the recording was lost. Toni Iommi suffered a hand injury and swam 2000 nautical miles back to europe to put on a stupid hat and work under an agriculturist named Jethro Tull.

 

In the early 1980s, the wax drum from the recording resurfaced and floated around the world's oceans once causing Iggy Pop to point off the deck of a Carnival Cruise ship and say "WTF is THAT?" to his fellow stooges.

 

 

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Dr. Seuss: The Original White Rapper

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WWND?

 

Brucie sez-------->phaeton you have a wonderful imagination!!! Incredible!!! And I like the fact that you were born in 1974! I bought the socks that I am wearing in 1970!!!

 

Brews the Original Viking!!!

[KB Gunn]

Bruce,

 

Since we are on a topic of audio recording history, I thought you might find this interesting. Dr. S.J. Begun was a distant relative. I remember my uncle Ben showing me one of his early recording machines when I was a young kid. I think it may have sparked the involvement I have in recording.

 

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/S.-J.-Begun

 

Also, this from David Morton, a chronology of magnetic recording:

 

c.1933-35 - Echophon company, another licensee of the Stille patents, develops the Textophon, a dictation machine using steel wire. Echophon is later purchased by ITT and made part of the subsidiary firm C. Lorenz, a manufacturer of telephone equipment. C. Lorenz, with the help of engineer Semi J. Begun, later markets a steel tape recorder that finds wide use in European telephone authorities for telephone recording purposes and by German radio networks for mobile recording.

 

1935 - An improved AEG recorder, dubbed the "Magnetophon", is demonstrated by recording the London Philharmonic Orchestra. The RRG ( the German radio authority ) begins to use the Magnetophon for broadcasting, replacing the earlier C. Lorenz recorders.

 

1938 - S.J. Begun of C. Lorenz leaves Germany to start a new career in the United States. In 1939 he takes a job at the Brush Development Company of Cleveland, Ohio.

 

1939-44 - Sales of Magnetophons total 379 units. That figure rises to 937 by 1943-44.

 

1939-45 - At the Brush Development Company, S. J. Begun develops steel tape and coated-paper tape recorders. Between 1942 and 1945 the company designs and successfully sells to the military various types of recorders utilizing plated media in the form of tapes, disks, and wire.

[Tedster]

Now that I'm done splurfing coffee...Phaeton, pass me a piece of that pizza, please. What kind of mushrooms did you say those were?

[phaeton]

Now that I'm done splurfing coffee...Phaeton, pass me a piece of that pizza, please. What kind of mushrooms did you say those were?

 

Mushrooms? They're dried ears. I got them from Dr. Gunn's dumpster.

[fulcrum]

Of course, Iggy was standing on the deck of a Royal Caribbean ocean liner at the time.

 

And of course, in asking one of his stooge minions to retrieve it, he said... wait for it...

 

"Get out there!"

[fantasticsound]

Great stuff, Bruce! (And peanut gallery!)

 

I was familiar with the Bechet film recording, but couldn't have remembered who it was or the dates if answering correctly were the only thing that could stop William Hung from singing.

 

Phaeton - You're killing me, man! LMAO!

 

Great.. now I feel old! I'm 3 years older than Brucie's socks!

[Tedster]

So...I'd say all this needs to be compiled into a PBS documentary..."The History of Recorded Music"...well, it would have to be a 10 part (at least) series.

[kptkarl]

 

Originally posted by Tedster So...I'd say all this needs to be compiled into a PBS documentary..."The History of Recorded Music"...well, it would have to be a 10 part (at least) series.

 

 

Hmmm...Is Ken Burns available