another definition: "math rock"

[MorePaul]

ROTFL

makes me want to go catch a screening of 3D House of Pancakes

[steadyb]

...or Dr Tongue's 3D House of Stewardesses. (with Woody Tobias Jr.)

[steadyb]

...or 3D House of Slavechicks.

In the miracle of "Smell-O-Rama".

[steadyb]

Tip O'Neil's 3D House of Representatives

Tip urges us to sign a bill.

"You don't think that's scary? That bill could become law!".

[BenOne]

Originally posted by phaeton This reminds me of a similar confusion that occurred in the early 90s--I forget what the exact term was (perhaps "art rock" or maybe even "alternative") Wasn't "ska" was it? I remember a debate about what "ska" really was, and there were some ppl throwing in str8 up funk because it had horns in it, or something.

 

 

Ska may also have been subject to confusion, but I figured it out--the term was "progressive," which in the early 90s was used to describe Yes/Genesis/ELP and similar bands by some and U2/REM and similar bands by others. For some evidence of this, see this

Usenet description of the alt.music.alternative newsgroup from 1993! (I've also pasted the relevant excerpt below.)

 

 

"-- alt.music.progressive

Progressive Rock, as it was defined in the 70's (i.e. what non-experts might

call 'symphonic'): groups like Yes, Gentle Giant and Genesis. Don't confuse

'progressive' with 'alternative'! "

 

Of course, the term "progressive" is now associated just with Yes/Genesis/ELP and its lineage which of course includes groups like Porcupine Tree.

 

At first, I was going to predict the same thing will happen with the term "math rock"--that it would be associated with just one sub-genre in a few years. But now I am thinking that the term "math rock" is simultaneously more specific and less malleable than "progressive" (which is at root a subjective term). Therefore I think the name "math rock" is going to be stuck in two subgenres. Some people will still claim it as a branch of noise rock (for historical reasons) and others will claim it as prog rock (since the term "math rock" SOUNDS to many like it is implying prog rock with its often complex meters).

 

Ben

[steadyb]

Mothra-ck???

[felix]

Originally posted by MorePaul I like old-school new wave, which is pre post-rock But I ain

[sometimes_called_green]

Originally posted by Mr. Botch I'd use the term for King Crimson, where half the band is playing in 17/8 and the other half in 19/8, and they end on the same beat...eventually. Could also use the term for Dream Theater and some of Zappa's stuff.

mmmmmm i'm pretty sure this is called polyrythmic music...
and this is played by bands like Aka Moon, Octurn, Steve Colemant and the five elements, and many others too-good-for-me musicians..

but maybe rockers deserve a special name when they play in something else than 4/4
..

[Super 8]

Mathrock??? Yuck....
Who comes up with these labels anyway?

Originally posted by Lee Flier Someone once referred to one of my bands, the psychedelic power pop band Orange Hat, as "math rock" in a review, which we found highly amusing as that's about the last thing any of us would use to describe Orange Hat.

Exactly.
Are there any "mathrock" bands who would call themselves mathrock?