need some vocal help guys (recording/jamming issues)

[fishfartz]

hello all,

 

i dont post in this particular forum much, but i think its the right place for this question. im looking into a mic, vocal processor, and adequate PA - adequate for his situation, nothing big-time

 

my brothers/wifes/brother needs a mic and a few other things and im not too sure where to start. i have a few at home that i use when writing/recording but they are nothing spectacular.

 

what he needs is something he can use for live use through a processor/PA or something like that, but also use for recording his vocals when we record.

 

i was thinking of the ol' reliable SM58. it always seems to work out with little trouble. is there anything else i should consider that is under $100?

 

 

also - he needs a processor and maybe a smallish PA, right now he is not playing out anywhere so he does not need anything huge at the moment.

 

he just needs something to practice his vocals at home (maybe mic>processor>PA) - but something that will be capable of a small gig, like a party or small bar. does anyone use that purple digitech processor with the included foot rocker? he was asking if he could use a guitar processor but i told him for recording he really needs something dedicated to vocals. no huge processing - but the basics. does anyone have any suggestions as far as "rack vs. pedal" vocal processors? like i said, nothing over the top but the basics, and im sure some of the other FX may come in handy recording

 

any ideas as far as a processor/PA that fits this discription? like i said, the processor and PA do not need to be huge, it just needs at least a few chanels to run his mic, a backup mic and maybe a drum machine.

 

 

 

anyway - i know this isnt alot of info but he just needs something basic to practice his vocals on, the processor for when we jam and record, and a PA small enough to not cost a fortune but loud enough for a party/bar gig.

 

 

thanks for any and all help/suggestions.

[fishfartz]

also - one more..........

 

 

 

if he is planning running his main vocal mic, a drum machine, a backup mic and possibly a keyboard into the PA, would i have more precise control over the volume/spike levels of everything if we ran his stuff into a mixer - and then into the PA, as opposed to just running those things into different channels of the PA?

 

 

i have not been able to gig since i was 18 - before i broke my back, but i never stopped playing/writing (im now almost 29). so i have no intention of gigging or anything like that - but he is a damn good songwriter. he has basic skills on a keyboard, and is very good at relaying his intentions to me when i write the music for him, he's really good at painting a picture for the vibe of the song he wants, as well as the tempo/feel/style.

 

so there are no plans for gigs or anything like that, but he is real good at what he does and at the very least i think he really could make a living as a songwriter. he is just getting tired of using a cheap mic into a little karaoke machine when we get together and write, and if he did play a local bar/club/party he would like something to make it happen.

 

 

 

 

so thanks again for any help, we really would appreciate some input on this one, constructive criticism, and anything at all.

[where02190]

AFA mics, I'd highly recommend the Shure Beta57A. It is my go to dynamic mic live, and I've used a few scratch tracks done with them as well.

IMHO it sounds far better than an SM58.

[fishfartz]

 

Originally posted by where02190 AFA mics, I'd highly recommend the Shure Beta57A. It is my go to dynamic mic live, and I've used a few scratch tracks done with them as well. IMHO it sounds far better than an SM58.

 

 

 

 

 

 

would you say it is a much better recording mic, or is it more geared towards live use?

 

 

thanks for the input

[Spencer Crewe]

I've used the B57A in both situations, and it excels in both, too. Great response in whatever environment yo're using them in.

 

Although, my personal preference for studio would be the Sennheiser E-series (namely the e609. Damn, I love that thing).

 

Cheers!

Spencer