Members kpmnc24 Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 So far I have only played Fenders and other guitars with a 25 1/2 inch scale. I tried an Epiphone the other day and it seemed really nice. What are the main differences in a shorter scale guitar? (24 3/4) Are there any differences in sound? I read somewhere it is easier to play but I'm not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr JinX Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 the frets are closer together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Professor Tom Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 A slinkier feel, some love it, some hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grantus Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 For people with smallish hands, a short scale can be more comfortable. The stereotype is that Fender-scale guitars are a little cleaner sounding, for lack of a better term, while shorter-scale guitars sound a bit "dirtier," again for lack of a better term. Myself, I think it depends more on the player, the amp, the effects and other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 from the simple fact that you don't have to reach as far... but seriously, it's only 3/4 of an inch difference. I think neck profile makes more of a difference in feel. I've got guitars in both scales, and I don't really notice anything when switching from one to the other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 the strings are looser and feel and sound more rubber bandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpmnc24 Posted August 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 A lot of the shorter scale guitars have humbuckers so that might be what makes people think they sound different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 Closer frets. Bendier strings. Ummmm ... that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grantus Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 from the simple fact that you don't have to reach as far... but seriously, it's only 3/4 of an inch difference. I think neck profile makes more of a difference in feel. I've got guitars in both scales, and I don't really notice anything when switching from one to the other... I'd agree that neck profile is a bigger issue for small hands. And neck width. I keep looking for a short scale guitar with a small neck profile and short neck width! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpmnc24 Posted August 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 I assume guitars with 21 frets instead of 22 have frets that are farther apart? (since the 21 have to cover the same distance as 22) I can't imagine 3/4 of an inch makes that much difference in how far apart the frets are - that's around 0.03 inch per fret. But maybe it does to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zepfan976 Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 I assume guitars with 21 frets instead of 22 have frets that are farther apart? (since the 21 have to cover the same distance as 22) wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 I assume guitars with 21 frets instead of 22 have frets that are farther apart? (since the 21 have to cover the same distance as 22) makes no difference. the distance between frets depends 100% only on the scale length. 22 fret necks just go on longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grantus Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 I assume guitars with 21 frets instead of 22 have frets that are farther apart? (since the 21 have to cover the same distance as 22) I can't imagine 3/4 of an inch makes that much difference in how far apart the frets are - that's around 0.03 inch per fret. But maybe it does to some people. On the open chord frets, it can be a bit easier to reach with a shorter scale. As you go down the fretboard, you can't tell much difference. You see a lot of women guitarists using shorter-scale guitars. Daisy Rock guitars are all 24.75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpmnc24 Posted August 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 That was dumb of me about the 21/22 fret difference. I was thinking the frets take up the entire scale which of course they do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Majai Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 If you hold the guitar in a classical guitar style (with the body of the guitar sitting on the left leg for a right handed guitar player) the 3/4 of an inch reach can make a difference. Especially if playing a song that is primarily open chords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 I'd agree that neck profile is a bigger issue for small hands. And neck width. I keep looking for a short scale guitar with a small neck profile and short neck width! hehehehe I'm 6'1" and abit bigger than the average Joe, so I don't have any problems... Although I play whichever guitar gives me the tone I need for a particular song, I find my Strat the most comfortable to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadgerMolester Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 I spent years playing a shorter scale Jackson Fusion, and have moved to longer scale guitars. Playing-wise, there's not too much difference. I play pretty fast guitars anyway, and I'd say that neck profile has more of an effect on playing. Stretches are slightly easier, but it's marginal. FWIW I'm over 6ft and am quite lanky with small hands but longish fingers.... Tonally, shorter scales seem to have more biting mids. My old Fusion could cut through anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phil051300 Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 I think the biggest reason is what is mentioned above. The strings dont have to be as tight to get the same note. So some feel its easier to play. I prefer strat scale length though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpmnc24 Posted August 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 Gibson does not list the neck radius on their website - any reason for that? Are they all the same? Fender lists the radius for all their guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lndianScout Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 short scales do come in handy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 Gibson does not list the neck radius on their website - any reason for that? Are they all the same? Fender lists the radius for all their guitars. i'm pretty sure all gibsons are 12" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Frankenstrat Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 I think the smaller scales are a little warmer sounding with a little more sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Majai Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 i'm pretty sure all gibsons are 12" No. For sure some Gibsons have a neck radius of 10". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skuller Posted August 8, 2007 Members Share Posted August 8, 2007 i went to a death metal concert two nights ago, and one of the bands 'INTESTINAL STRANGULATION' (awesome name, eh?), anyway, the guitarist played a dean mini v. super short scale. basically, it gets easier to play, because everything is so much closer. its like when a beginner guitarist steps it up and doesn't leave the guitar hanging by the knees, and gets it up on the gut so you can actually see what you're doing. this is different, but difr'nt strokes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitslinger Posted August 11, 2007 Members Share Posted August 11, 2007 All other things being equal (which admittedly they seldom are), a shorter scale length will have slightly less tension in the strings, which can make string bending a little easier. The 24.75" scale length is a little sweeter sounding than the longer scales, and can be unpredictable, offering little surprises from time to time, like when bending notes. The 25.5" scale has better note definition/separation, is a little louder and more powerful, a feature that is most noticeable on chords. For my tastes the strat is the ulitimate rhythm guitar, while the Les Paul produces the best lead tones. The 25" scale is a nice comprise between the two standard scales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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